Picking a fight with Hasan Piker while midterms are gearing up is the dumbest fucking idea. The consultant class really is a problem when it comes to meaningful change. (TikTok screencap)
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did someone draw the teeth in paint?
Fucking purity testing bullshit, fully functional and operational at the highest levels. The left will purity test itself into extinction if it doesn’t realize it’s happening.
Precisely. The right will vote for anyone no matter how terrible they are and we’re busy self defeating.
Hasan continues to be an effective litmus test.
Like, if in 2026 you’re responding to the call to actively take time and energy out to hate on Hasan, you’re squarely an anti-leftist.
People talked about his dog for longer than we talked about the 100+ children the US slaughtered a few weeks ago
I think it’s a bit much to say that someone who doesn’t like Hasan is an anti-leftist. I’ll stand by my brothers and sisters in the fight for equality for all but I’m also of the opinion that Hasan is a bit of a douche who probably does more harm than good for the left in the US. I would encourage you to not box out potential allies because of a silly disagreement over a Twitch streamer
Not liking is one thing. It’s another thing to take the next step and put energy into attacking Hasan. As in: the active practice of boxing out Hasan and any fans of Hasan.
Liaison and Party Harmony: In the primary campaign your opposition is Jack Hopeful, a member of your own party. Never forget that you will need the support of all your party after the primary and never let your supporters forget it!
This is a very touchy, difficult matter, particularly in a volunteer organization. You are certain to have loyal supporters who are simple souls, unable to think in terms other than black and white. To them Jack Hopeful is the ENEMY - they will commit excesses through misguided zeal. So also will some of Mr. Hopeful’s supporters. Bad blood breeds more bad blood; in short order you can have a situation which is completely out of hand, which splits the party wide open, and which will render it impossible for your man to win in the finals.
Since the nomination is valueless in itself, being merely a necessary means to an end, you must prevent this at all costs.
–Robert A. Heinlein, Take Back Your Government
Mobilize them to do what? Not vote?
Isn’t that the guy who was in the Cuba flotilla just last week or so?
The opposite, vote in primaries and try to get people on the ballot worth voting for
Thats the key, if you dont get exactly what you want in the primaries, what do you do?
If there’s no one worth voting for, don’t vote. My disagreements with the candidate I vote for should be about, like, whether billionaires should be taxed at 90% or 95%, not whether or not we should murder a bunch of school children for Israel. There’s a difference between not voting for someone because they’re not exactly what you wanted, and not voting for someone because they’re a war criminal.
Biden had four fucking years to put Trump in jail. Four years to release the Epstein files before Trump got sharpie all over them. Four years to give us healthcare and raise the minimum wage. Instead we got first amendment violations, some infrastructure funding, and an assurance that evangelical christians could spend the next four years trying to bring about the end of the world. I’m not ashamed that I voted for Harris or Biden, but I would not vote for them again. I’ll vote for a party that would fight Republicans, not BLAST them with mean words. If that party is the democrats, great. If not, then I’m not voting democrat. I’ll write in Abraham Lincoln’s Reanimated Corpse before I vote Newsom.
If there’s no one worth voting for, don’t vote.
It’s always worth voting for the non-fascist option.
So we can have a different, even worse fascist in four years? Aren’t you tired of settling for “not as evil?” You can say something like “but if Republicans win they’ll make sure that no leftist ever wins again,” but voting blue no matter who got us here, with a republican who’s doing his best to make sure no leftist ever wins again.
The choice is between “fascism now” and “possibly fascism later” and you’re adamant about picking the former. Great logic.
So how many years of fascism will it take until we get this utopia you have in mind?
There’s no “possibly” about it. Republicans will win some elections. Fascism now, or fascism later. I want someone in office who will mitigate the fascism that inevitably comes later, not enable it.
I mean look at the last couple of elections. Do you seriously think that, in hindsight, Biden winning 2020 was a good thing? 2021–2024 under Biden wasn’t as bad as it would have been under Trump, but it sure as shit wasn’t worth letting Trump win '24.
how many years
Ideally 2. That’s why I’m voting in primaries. But assuming Newsom (or some equivalent) makes it to the ballot, then ideally 6. If nobody votes for the blue fascist in '28, maybe we can get someone worth voting for in '32. If every democrat votes for Hitler (D), then we have a lot more years of fascism to look forward to in the future.
voting blue no matter who got us here,
Well, no. Because Trump was elected. Twice. If people had “voted blue not matter who”, we would have had Clinton, a shitty Dem and not a progressive, but NOT. TRUMP. And again with Harris, who would have been much better than TRUMP.
The time to fight and the place to fight is NOT the general US election, but everywhere else - primaries, and beyond.
But when it comes to the general election, the choice is FASCISM or NOT FASCISM for now, sot he choice is clear.
I used to agree, but now I don’t. In the general election, the choice is between FASCISM NOW or FASCISM LATER. We’ve been signalling to the democratic party that fascism later is fine for years now, and we need to start signalling to them that it’s not.
Let’s say Harris wins 2024. What would she do to prevent the next republican from being just as bad as, if not worse than, current Trump? Voting blue no matter who means never getting a progressive candidate. Why on earth would the democrats run a progressive when they can run a conservative, knowing you’ll vote for anyone with a D next to their name?
Also… What primaries should we be fighting in when they don’t have one?
This was the most efficiently I have ever proven my point in my whole career of arguing with people on the internet.
It was not very long ago that I would have left comments exactly like this. I hope the disillusionment hits you soon. We can’t have a better future as long as we’re willing to put up with the present.
What is going on in here? Most of the comments are blue maga.
No kidding!
Some of these comments are unhinged. We’re drowning in a sea of fascism and folks are still doing purity tests and believing BS from right wing sources.
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Point proven!
The only thing I know about that Hassan guy is that he uses a shock collar on his dog. Thought that was what he was best known for after all the memes
Wasn’t that fake
Yep. Hasan’s hate machine still runs with it anyway, since he draws kids away from the groypers and manosphere shit. They’re reliant on the lack of scrutiny.
Nope, people proved it was a shock collar by finding the exact model when he tried briefly showing it on camera to supposedly prove that it wasn’t.
But, that’s all I ever heard about him. And partially from all the memes generated. I just assumed he was another American neoliberal talking head. But from reading comments here I guess he’s supposed to be a famous leftist?..
Doesn’t he shill for the Kremlin?
He’s a bit tankie but not that tankie
Picking a fight with Hasan Piker
Dude is insanely problematic…
Saying the party should toss values aside and just shut up and accept him because he’s twitch famous is fucking wild.
He’s a fucking nepo baby that got famous working for his genocide denying uncle. If he held half the values he claims to, he wouldnt have a multimillion dollar mansion and spend all his time raising his “brand awareness”.
Like, for people who actually listen to this douche, take a second and think about what you hear more about:
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The candidate he’s supposed to be helping here
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How Hasan is smarter and knows more than any politician
You little fuckers are falling for the same grift boomers did with trump
Care to elaborate on those supposed values us supporters are throwing aside?
Normally when someone asks a question, you’re more likely to get your question answered if you answer theirs first.
This is a part of basic social interaction often taught in preschool:
Like, for people who actually listen to this douche, take a second and think about what you hear more about:
The candidate he’s supposed to be helping here
How Hasan is smarter and knows more than any politician
You asked a question? Looks to me like you just made assumptions and spouted off about how smart you are, ironic really. Classic pot and kettle, which is always funny. Hasan isn’t perfect, but the dude has way more good takes than bad ones. I’m guessing he flamed you once and you’ve had a vendetta since?
I do want to congratulate you on not using any slurs this time.
Still comes off like how trump supporters talk tho, you’re not fooling anyone.
And I’m definitely not going to be able to explain the intricacies of the English language here, even if I was willing.
Good shit my guy. Username checks out.
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