• thedruid@lemmy.world
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    7 days ago

    here’s the issue.

    There’s been a tax on the second amendment for decades. Having to pay the fees for licensing, and the classes, means there’s a cost to exercise the right. Since people with no knowledge about the subject made sure to make it as expensive as possible to enjoy a right, the psychopaths in office now have precedent.

    one cannot tax one right and hand wave another. So . which do you think will fall first?

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      Dont stop! I’m playing sad violin music to back you up! keep typing, think of the children who wont get to fire guns without your continued effort.

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        Jesus Christ what’s the matter with you! I didn’t think id see the same type of insulting children here as on reddit. What ever happened to civil discourse?

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            6 days ago

            Umm. I don’t own a modern firearm

            Don’t be so antagonistic. No one’s asking for sympathy. Why so angry?

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              Lol up and down this thread crying about gun taxes. “Why so angry?” You’re that kind of redditor lol. I’d say go back, but I’ll bet you’re one of the ones that actually earned your ban.

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          ( sad violin music intensifies, with frett pounding added to simulate bullet firing noises )

          Its about time someone spoke up for pew-pew owners rights. Why do the anti school shooting folks get all the press?

          How dare everyone not consider my gawd-given personal rights to mass casualty tools.

          /s

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      There’s been a tax on the second amendment for decades. Having to pay the fees for licensing, and the classes, means there’s a cost to exercise the right.

      I looked at the receipt for a recent gun purchase, a rifle, and there are zero taxes or fees on it except sales tax which applies to nearly all items (such as video games or automobiles) for sale. There were no required licenses or classes to purchase or own this firearm.

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        in your state. Where I am there are requirements for everything. from buying ammo to getting separate licenses for long guns and pistols.

        the weapon itself is not what I’m talking about. of course that’s taxable.

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          So your beef is with a State (or municipal) government. That isn’t quite the same as a restriction at the Federal level that we’re discussing here.

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            It is though. The constitution is the law and it does give supremacy to the feds. Meaning a state or municipal law gives way to federal laws when there are none.

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              Again, I think this is a tangent, but even you admit that you are able to buy a gun and own in with these taxes in place. Your 2nd Amendment right is clearly intact. There’s no Constitutional right protecting gun ownership from taxation. Where that isn’t the case with voting. The 24th Amendment protects your right to vote without any fee. Gun ownership has no corresponding Constitutional protection.

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                No. In my state you cannot unless you pay for the classes , fingerprinting and background checks , etc…

                Do not get me wrong I am for classes , and background checks.

                I don’t believe those should cost the prospective owner though.

                Now if there was no cost and those were required, I wouldn’t say a word. I hope my point is a bit clearer

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                  No. In my state you cannot unless you pay for the classes , fingerprinting and background checks , etc…

                  That’s sounds like, yes, with extra steps. I understand not liking the extra steps, but they aren’t unconstitutional.

                  Now if there was no cost and those were required, I wouldn’t say a word. I hope my point is a bit clearer

                  Your point is clear, but not supported by the Constitution. Taxes and fees, by themselves, aren’t prohibition of freedom. Poll taxes are, as they are specifically called out as outlawed by the Constitution.

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                    It has been established as I shared it earlier. .

                    But quite frankly in this timeline it doesn’t matter trump and his Nazi cronies will do as they please

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      I have multiple guns. Never paid for a class, don’t need a license. Only cost was in the guns and ammo. Now, I WAS taught at an early age how to handle guns safely, and am damn near brainwashed to handle them thusly (I never leave a bullet in chamber and I still clear my weapons every time I even touch them.) That said, I do need to stop being a lazy ass and finish building my ak47 instead of leaving it half assembled. Still needs a couple of American parts and I will not risk being dinged with an illegally built firearm.