• NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io
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      I see another Lemmy atheist not realizing Zionism is an aggressively atheist ideology built on enlightenment ideas of nationality at the explicit ezpense of Judaism. What religion did Ben Gurion believe in again?

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        Why do we think the comment was about Israeli religion?

        Those people were incarcerated by Iran, which is a theocracy, due to religious beliefs about LGBTQ people.

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          Why do we think the comment was about Israeli religion?

          Because this is a point Lemmy atheists like to make, and because most people wouldn’t describe imprisonment as “destructive” unprompted so it’s clear they were referring to Israel.

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            Fuck off, imprisonment for being trans is destructive and outright evil, so is bombing prisoners.

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                as a gay man, i and plenty of other queers talk about religion as “destructive”. its a common part of the vernacular, and you wouldn’t be quibbling over the language if you saw and understood how destructive religion is to both queer communities and queer lives

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                  That has literally nothing to do with what I’m talking about. I’m responding to the common idea that religion is somehow a significant motivator for Zionist atrocities, not commenting on the impact of religion in general. Then I explained why I thought that was the (or at least a) point made in the parent comment.

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                    Religion is the most destructive force on the planet mostly because the followers are easily fooled.

                    was the original comment, and then you started complaining about using the word destructive to describe religion in an “unprovoked” way which according to you proved that the original comment was talking about israel

                    i am merely pointing out that describing religion as destructive is pretty common, and can’t be used as evidence for interpreting the original comment in any particular way

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                Your comments were unprompted. The world would be better without them. Fuck religion, ALL religion. Judaism included.

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                  Your comments were unprompted

                  Huh? I am literally responding to a point made in the parent comment. What the fuck are you even talking about?

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            Imprisoning people over their sexually is destructive to society. Let’s hear from the commenter before speculating further.

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      Idk, if it wasn’t religion it’d be something else. Religion is a great tool to control populations, but it’s just one of many. Most human conflicts have a materialistic basis to them and things like religion or nationality are just used as window dressing.

      I’d say the most destructive force on the planet is usually just rich/powerful dudes beefing over turf.

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      It’s not religion that caused the two dealiest wars in human history. Human greed and resource control is the biggest problem.