• selkiesidhe@lemm.ee
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    2 months ago

    Lol this is getting better and better! We knew they’d have a breakup eventually.

    With luck muskrat will give us some damning evidence as he tries to win back the public’s view via his new PR team lolol

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      2 months ago

      Which means I doubt there’s going to be a bunch of Republicans suddenly jumping to Team Musk.

      GOP grifters avoiding the biggest pile of money to grift, and you’re confident grifters will actively avoid it? I’m not so sure. I’m betting a number of opportunistic GOP will sign up on the Musk train if it means getting a paycheck/personal superpac donation.

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      I feel like if he wanted to he could out right buy half the GOP congress people though. Money holds a lot of political power when the politicians are for sale.

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        His money is tied up in his companies, which are crashing. Tesla stock is dropping steadily, and the only reason it was making any money at all was because of EV credits, which go away in the Big Beautiful Bill. That’s why he hates it so much. It dooms Tesla, which will be bankrupt within two years.

        Now he’s threatening to decommission the only American spacecraft that goes to the Space Station. That gives the government the excuse to cancel all contracts for Space X, or even confiscate it.

        Kill Tesla and nationalize Space X, and he’s got nothing left.

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        2 months ago

        He already announced he’s done donating to the gop after he burned all that money in wisconsins Supreme Court race.

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    Ok, so let me try to make sense of this:

    Around the year 2010-2020, i and many other vehemently warned against the issue of rising national debt. Yet “experts” said “it’s fine, we can make as much debt as we want to, nothing bad is going to happen because of it lol”.

    Starting in the last 5 years or so, lots of experts say “oh no, the national debt is way to high, that’s a disaster, that’s a catastrophe, we can’t let that happen, who put us into this situation?” Just let me appreciate the irony for a bit. I fucking called it. I said this was going to happen. I was called insane. This feels really validating to me.

    Anyways, since now lots of people, including economists, are angry that the debt is too high, people want it lowered. The obvious and straightforward solution would of course be to introduce a wealth tax (i.e. a tax on millionaires and billionaires).

    In the beginning of 2025, Musk and Trump both agreed (at least in public) that the debt has to be lowered. Musk’s attempt was to cut the federal government. Well, the federal government spends money for two things, mostly: subsidies (social security, medical bill assistance, …) and data-processing (i.e., enforcing regulations, tax collection agency, …). The first one costs most of the money, but reducing it gets the public angry (understandably) and is therefore a political suicide. The second one doesn’t really cost that much, yet that is the one that Musk attempted to reduce to the point of dysfunctionality. Since it didn’t cost much to begin with, reducing it didn’t save a lot of money. In May 2025, Trump says “was Musk’s DOGE all a hoax?” and the feud begins. Musk realizes that Trump is against increasing taxes for the rich and publicly accuses Trump of having no actual intention of lowering the national debt. This is where we are now.

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      The rethuglicans have literally used false concern about the debt for decades now? They then get into office and blow it up, but the next time a dem is in office, the debt is once again the worst problem ever and is out of control. Rinse>repeat, again, for decades now.

      Edit: oh, the article posted by SoleInvictus lays it out much better than I tried

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      The ultimate irony being that the “national debt” is simply the tally of all interest bearing and non interest bearing dollars created by the government that haven’t been taxed out of existence.

      There’s no scenario where we can’t pay debt denominated in our own currency, unless the government chooses not to pay.

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sectoral_balances

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        There’s no scenario where we can’t pay debt denominated in our own currency, unless the government chooses not to pay.

        Well, yeah, but having an exponentially inflating debt leads to hyperinflation which makes the dollar worthless, and that has real-world consequences.

        I think if the dollar loses its value, society will jump to another alternative payment method, maybe crypto or sth else entirely, and that would be worse because it means you end up without state control. I.e., it is like having no state regulations anymore, and then who protects the citizens from corpo’s overreach? A lot of regulations are tied to things-being-measured-in-dollars. Like corporate taxes, or social security.

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      70% of the country can’t stand him, but Rand Paul has been saying this too, and sometimes voting against the Republicans on spending.

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    2 months ago

    King Kong vs Godzilla isn’t gonna have shit on what’s to come between these two monsters.

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    There’s some major schadenfreude in this, but never forget all of the damage that DOGE did to the government & countless numbers of its loyal employees.

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    I mean I agree but what a little piss ant, lol.

    Very “Kick me out of your club, huh? Well see about that …”

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    2 months ago

    Lmao, two idiots fighting. This seemed kind of inevitable, they’re not compatible personality types to work with each other.

    Elon definitely thinks he has more influence with trump’s crowd than he actually has, but I also think his position at twitter makes him dangerous to trump by undermining his ability to reach a lot of people who haven’t fully crawled down the maga conspiracy pipeline.

    I don’t think he’s going to be able to shift much support to Vance ether. Vance and his ilk are just to weird for most trump supporters.

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    The silver lining to the shit show of the last 9 months is that the Republican drama has finally gotten entertaining.

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      If we’re dreaming of fantasies that will never happen, I also want nationwide ranked-choice voting, and maybe we can overturn Citizens United Vs Federal Elections and stop allowing corporations to literally run our country.

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      I know there is some clause or stipulation that allows for the seizure of assets obtained by illegal immigrants.

      Musk is an illegal immigrant who pursued business ventures in violation of his school visa and lied about it.