• DarkFuture@lemmy.world
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    Lol. So many dumb voters who think everything changes for the better overnight if they protest vote and don’t grasp that politics is a battle of voting for the less shitty option so you can take baby steps toward something better.

    In the end, all they did was set us back X number of years/decades. Thanks stupids.

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    Since the Democrats didn’t give every single thing on the bLuEmAGa screechers wishlist, ofc Trump was the perfect alternative!

    Definitely not an example of letting perfection become the enemy of good or anything!

    Edit: To whoever replied to me, but probably has me blocked since I can’t see it (only the reply counter) unblock me if you’re going to reply to me, coward!

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      Letting perfection become the enemy of good? Good is funding a genocide?

      Also, I’ve never blocked anyone.

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        My b, you somehow got blocked on accident as I also never block anybody.

        Anyways

        Good is funding a genocide?

        There was keeping the status quo at worse (Harris) and then there was throwing the dial to 11 and opening new potential genocide fronts right here in America! (Trump)

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          Oh no worries, I probably said something stupid at some point.

          I completely agree with everything you’re saying except that the Harris campaign was good. There were no good choices this election, there was just an objectively wrong one. I voted for Harris anyway because trump is obviously worse by far, I think I’m just still pissed at her milquetoast center right campaign.

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            As a fellow reluctant Harris voter, I wonder if people like them think that anyone who criticized Harris/the campaign didn’t vote. I know A LOT of hardcore leftists that are left of even me and every one of them voted. Some would maybe not say it out loud in a group, but they all did just in case Trump had the votes lol. It’s a shame they sacrificed their morals not only for Harris to lose, but now they’re also being blamed for it. If people had anti lib energy the way they had anti leftist energy, we’d have M4A by now lol.

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        Good is funding a genocide?

        Keeping your most important ally in the Middle East isn’t about good or bad. It’s simply necessary.

        Now we have a worse “genocider”.

        You aren’t just voting for the person to have power. You’re voting for their party to have power. It wasn’t just about Joe Biden or Kamala Harris.

        And in case you didn’t notice, we’ve got some pretty serious issues here at home to be focusing on and taking into account when we vote. Palestinians are simply not at the top of my list.

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        1. Those idiots didn’t know going into the election that their vote wouldn’t affect the outcome, but they did it anyway.

        2. Protest voters could conceivably include people who protested by not voting, and they most certainly affected the outcome.

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          Protest voters were young people, who voted the exact same as every other election. They don’t vote.

          If you want to engage with reality and look at the data you would see that the groups that voted for Biden and not Harris were older white men/women, and older hispanic men. Most likely because of the instilled patriarchal values and machismo culture of these groups made it hard to stomach voting for a woman with the same policies as the white man they voted for.

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        So… Harris lost by some 2.3 million votes. Collectively, third party spoilers netted over 3 million votes.

        Now, we add in the just under 90 million people that chose not to vote at all- and assume that at least several million of those people folded their arms and pouted because something they don’t understand is going on in a place they didn’t know existed a bit over year ago because of reasons that even though has been explained to them ad-nauseam, they still refuse to acknowledge because if flies in the face of their edgy manufactured outrage…

        … it’s safe to assume protest votes and non-voting was a tremendous lift in helping trump win the White House.

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            It’s irrelevant when you factor in the 90 million people that didn’t vote. Had a decent amount of them voted instead of pouting at home, they could have made a HUGE difference in the battleground states.

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                If only these people weren’t so lazy and entitled that they otherwise would. Because maybe that would have motivated them to at least put some thought into the idea that other people live here too.

                Naaah… they knew.

                And the reason I know they knew is because I was here when we all tried to warn them. When we all TOLD them what would happen if trump won.

                But they think they’re owed perfection. Well, they’re not. And now, a LOT of people are going to suffer greatly-

                Some already are.

                Because of people like them…

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                  Ah, yes, the fediverse, where most people are and they all saw your warning and ignored it.

                  You have a far higher opinion of the average Americans’s political knowledge than I do.

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          In 2020 there were just under 2mil independent voters

          https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third-party_and_independent_candidates_for_the_2020_United_States_presidential_election

          So 1mil were added

          The Dems had 11million votes less than what they got in 2020, the Republicans had 5mil less

          We know Democrats don’t change to Republicans, and Republicans very rarely change to Democrats.

          (Maybe) the 1mil came from democrat protesters, more likely they came from Republicans who don’t want to vote Democrat.

          So either way the protest votes were still a drop in the bucket compared to the other 10million white men/women and hispanic men we can see from the shifts in voter demographics.

          Im sorry you don’t like the data I’m observing but we live in a deeply bigoted country and it’s better to try to engage with that and fix it instead of feeling attacked.

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            Again… 90 million people didn’t vote at all. It’s safe to assume a large portion of them are a result of single issue non-voting protests.

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                  Ok but you understand how you just moved the goalposts like 4 times right?

                  You can delusionally hate poor people because of a strawman you hallucinated, it’s a free country for now.