The U.S. government said Monday it is immediately placing a 17% duty on most fresh Mexican tomatoes after negotiations ended without an agreement to avert the tariff.

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    American tomatoes would probably be smeared in e coli. Be careful out there my US friends.

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      At this point I have a difficult time trusting any tomatoes I don’t grow myself.

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    I can’t wait to buy American tomatoes in the fucking winter, after the tomato growing season is over.

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      The US has plenty of areas with a shitton of sun in the winter. Very dry areas, like southern Spain, or Israel, produce year round and with little available water, but well managed.

      The Netherlands produce vegetables, competitive for export, with half the sun or heat.

      Vegetables are one of the few sectors that can be repatriated in a short time through tariffs.

      When you get into tree crops and such is when you have the same problem as with factories, years until production.

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        Given that tomatoes suffer when nighttime temperatures start going below 55°F (13°C), there is pretty much nowhere in the continental US where they can be grown successfully year-round without some sort of environmental control or protection.

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          Yes they can. See Almeria, Spain. Similar to Arizona/NM weather, and as dry. Also, the Dutch do it, in climate controlled greenhouses, price competitive.

          It can definitely be done.

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            The temperature in Almeria has never gone below freezing in all of recorded history, which is not the case anywhere in Arizona or New Mexico. Even Yuma, AZ goes well below freezing sometimes, and winter averages are well below the comfort threshold for tomatoes, where in Almeria average lows are warmer. And the summer highs in the US southwest (tomatoes also suffer and will not set fruit when temps are consistently above 95° (35°C) blow Almeria and everywhere in Europe out of the water.

            I’m not saying you can’t grow in greenhouses and still be able to afford tomatoes, but there’s no situation in which growing in a greenhouse doesn’t cost more than growing outdoors in a suitable climate. Mexico has that suitable climate year-round, and the US does not, and as a result this tariff on Mexican tomatoes is going to significantly raise tomato prices in the US.

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          environmental control or protection.

          That’s what they elsewhere call “greenhouse”.

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      Not a Trump fan, but year round tomatoes could actually be done. Regrettably barely anyone wants to invest in it. Indoor farming and hydroponics are a thing. They use less water and less/no pesticides. And they are great for “buy local” without having to ship them from another country. And you don’t have to pick them in the hot sun. So far I’ve seen lettuce and strawberries for sale in my local grocery that were grown this way.

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        We have them up north, on winter nights with low clouds, the sky appears orange.

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        Shipping from Mexico isn’t very far, fyi. Mexico is closer to the entire southern and western US than those areas are to New England. To be clear, I support eating/buying local at every opportunity, but as international trading partners go, shipping from Mexico is about as efficient as can be.

        Hydroponics and indoor farming add significant cost, also

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    And who will be working those farms? But I’m sure somebody in the administration figured a way to short a stock involving it, somehow

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      My old highschool now has the option for kids to opt out of PE instead you hop on the school bus and your 4 hour block is instead done on a local farm helping out.

      So children mostly I would assume.

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        Its not a bad thing to allow highschool kids to experience real working conditions. Americans also need to see for themselves that working on a farm isn’t the horrible torture everyone acts like it is.

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      Nitpick: this would be shorting a future, not a stock.

      Futures are typically “physical” goods like oil, bananas, cheese, maple syrup, etc. there are also other types of futures.

      These commodities futures were originally created in the 1600s in Japan for rice, but they got their mass appeal in Chicago in the late 1800s.

      The trading floors in Chicago are pretty cool and have a ton of interesting history.

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    Ok… What field do i have to go to so i can harvest them myself… Since there is no one to harvest them for me?

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      The people came for miles to take the fruit, but this could not be. How would they buy oranges at twenty cents a dozen if they could drive out and pick them up? And men with hoses squirt kerosene on the oranges, and they are angry at the crime, angry at the people who have come to take the fruit. A million people hungry, needing the fruit—and kerosene sprayed over the golden mountains. And the smell of rot fills the country.

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    Does he think the tomatoes are made like in the factory or something? Does he understand that it takes time to grow tomatoes?

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      The old cunt has probably never seen a tomato that hasn’t already been mushed into the “sauce” he puts on his well done steak.

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    At least he learned that tariffing all the products, including those which you can’t produce domestically, is not the brightest idea

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    Want people to eat more US tomatoes? Maybe try making them taste good instead of just growing the tomato equivalent of iceberg lettuce because it keeps for weeks and “looks good”

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    … while at the same time raiding local farms

    The best way for this regime to be stupider. is to stay awake for more hours

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    Who is going to grow them? Disabled people? Also, lots of luck speed growing tomatoes.