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So we are at this point.
This is such embarrassing fantasy that it’s almost hard to believe that real people believe it, but traitor lunatics thrive on nonsense. This Epstein list is like the pizza parlor conspiracy.
Is a government full of pedophiles worth saving?
No. The answer is no.
Funny, I thought that’s what they believed, too. Now, suddenly they seem to think it’s best to leave the global pedophile cabal in power.
I would imagine there are at least half a million people far more qualified and with more integrity to replace those dummys
I hate how hopeful I am. I keep believing that at some point these people on the right are going to wake up and realize what they’ve voted for.
And I am continuously disappointed as they make more and more excuses for the criminal acts their leadership has committed each time they come to light.
i doubt it, they are “into deep” so they have to double down, or shift to something like “i never supported that.” never have a self reflection to admit thier wrong thinking.
=/ I have my doubts
That’s not collapse, that’s just justice. That’s people being held accountable for their crimes. Society is still going to function fine without them, their roles, if they even have any, will just be taken over by the next person in the command structure.
Or, better yet, we (as in society as a whole) can take the opportunity of clearing house to restructure our government (and, by extension, economic) systems to one where corrupt individuals cannot readily acquire hierarchical authority over others and entrench themselves behind layers of systemic powers.
Instead of an electoralist system where we elect representatives to dictate at their discretion which interests they will ultimately support for a federated system of syndicates where each has a set of delegates which have been assigned a specific responsibilities and expectations where, if those individuals are found to neglect their responsibilities, we can readily rescind their power of authority and replace them.
Power must come from the bottom up, otherwise we are slaves to the whims of those who wield authority from on high.
I’ve heard this “if we expose them whatta-buh-bout collapse?” a few times now. And if you’re trying to tell me that the global system is predicated upon the ultra rich and powerful being able to traffick and serially abuse children and get away with it, that’s not a system worth saving.
Burn it down, to the water line, and start anew. Release the whole thing, not a redacted or doctored list to quell the MAGA revolt. Everyone who was ever on that island - from the wait staff to Bill Gates - needs to be investigated properly, cleared as appropriate, and punished as deserved.
Completely agree, and the stonkingly overinflated ego on them to even contemplate an inking of the idea that society would collapse just because some scummy paedo cunts get some well deserved comeuppance is astonishing.
Christ, fucking baboons do a better job keeping their societies running more smoothly then these kiddie fiddling chucklefucks.
Plus there would be many more people chomping at the bit to do their ‘jobs’, but do it better.Send the nonces to prison, fuck sake.
DO IT!
The world’s most powerful people going to prison would not cause the collapse of society. That is just not what society is. Even setting aside all hate for the 0.1% and judgments about whether they deserve prison, it’s just ridiculous to say that society depends on them. Who even wrote that line? Ayn Rand’s grandson?
Imprisioned? Hardly. Not with their kind of money and influence. Some would go down. We already know lots of names on the list which aren’t getting any serious time out of this.
It is not the elites of society who keep the role turning, it’s the workers.
But who’s gonna tell the rubes what to do?
They’re by definition NOT INNOCENT. Whatever happened to “drain the swamp”?
Whatever happened to “drain the swamp”?
It has been replaced by “Swamping the drain” long ago.
Don’t shit where you eat, don’t drain the swamp where you live
2/3rds of Congress? Is that why the vote to release the files was along party lines, with 211 Republicans voting to stop the release of the files? I think it’s more like a simple majority of congress, lol.
I wouldn’t be surprised if some of the people on the list on the democrat side voted in favor of releasing them knowing that the republicans would vote it down anyways.
They just wanted the good optics.
Oh, cool satyrical comment about what a Republican would say.
And then a Democrat would say “by that logic, couldn’t a mix of Republicans vote yes and Democrats vote no? Instead it’s a clear partisan split like this problem only really effects one side, and everyone voting yes who would be impacted would then risk not only their career but the rest of their lives in the off chance it did pass.”
Do you really think that none of the democrats who voted on this are on the list?
We already know bill Clinton is on the list democrats are not immune from this. Power corrupts and that applies to democrats and republicans.
The republicans never go against what trump wants no matter what so of course they would all vote against this. They have been doing this for every heinous policy that trump wants why would they stop here?
This is an issue of people using their positions of power to do evil shit and the republicans probably do have more people on the list but to pretend that democrats aren’t guilty as well is naive.
Power does not corrupt. Throughout history there have been individuals who used their power to do extraordinary good.
What power does do, specifically power that is hierarchical in structure, is attract those who are already corrupt. Those individuals crave power above all else and will do anything to secure that power for themselves whereas someone who would use that power for good would not resort to underhanded tactics in order to manipulate a win and is thus less likely to succeed in obtaining that position. This is especially true in our electoralist system where the method in which people obtain seats of power is nothing more than a popularity contest.
You can’t reasonably hold a popularity competition for representation when you live in a society where misinformation is encouraged.
Power and money corrupt most people. The government should be designed from the ground up to resist corruption. It should eliminate manipulation and ensure societies policies are sustainable and that future generations will thrive.
Like the Panama papers?
Newsweek said that O’Reilly said that Chat GPT said that you’re a cunt.
But seriously, put those pedofiles in jail. We can elect new representatives. This wouldn’t destabilize society.
