• suburban_hillbilly@lemmy.ml
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    6 days ago

    Maybe your wife’s choice of career has fuck all to do with how good of a person you are. Since she’s not property and you don’t control her, yeah?

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      I think it’s more about the evangelical base and their extreme cope than necessarily about Melania, though being hypocritical to attack your out group is nothing new.

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        Yes, for me it’s the hypocrisy of the base. Imagine if Michelle or Hillary had been listed on that website Melania was on and had their pictures circulating. Imagine if those families had decorated the White House with some gaudy shit. Like Obama said, “imagine if I had done any of that”. The commenters are missing the point.

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        It’s low-hanging fruit of the simple minded who can’t make a compelling argument. Don’t make excuses for misogyny just because the rhetoric is being used in your favor.

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      Who is downvoting this? Melania is a monster, but doing nude modeling has 0 to do with it. Attacking Trump through that is really gross. He has plenty of gross skeletons to go for, and Melania has actually objectionable actions, this meme is trash.

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        It’s not a judgement of Melania. It’s a judgment of the type of guy who would have a nude model mail order bride as their 3rd trophy wife.

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        If you see this post and you come and comment defending Trump or harassing Obama then it’s a pretty safe bet you’re a piece of shit, downvote and move along.

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        Nude modeling is morally neutral.

        Hell, participating in ethically made hardcore porn is morally neutral.

        Judging a woman for either is misogynistic. Judging that woman’s partner for her choices is even more misogynistic.

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          Except if a wife sticks with her husband through his terrible choices., judging her is not misogynistic at all. Isn’t this the same crowd that loves to say if you’re sitting at a table with nazis, you’re no better than a nazi?

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            That’s not what the meme is talking about. It shames her for nude photos, not for being a terrible person and sticking with her felon of a husband.

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        My take is that it’s a rejection of the “high road” stance. That we have to be the better ones and don’t stoop to their level. Nothing is off limits when Trump is attacking people. The high ground hasn’t done anything positive. Besides that, people body shame Trump. His hair, his weight, his penis size. Call her a gold digging slut. There hasn’t been rules for years.

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          So we should reject the “high road” and start being mysogynistic? Not a fan. I’ll gladly shame them with some choice words, but in ways that won’t make me feel like I’m turning nazi myself.

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          If you successfully move people over with puritanical talking points, the party or whatever will get more puritanical. It also makes it easier for the other side to dismiss or counterattack if the other side is not puritanical. In this situation, it would be better to commend her “sex-positivity” or alternative lifestyle, relying on the other side’s dissapproval of such things, instead of framing it as “bad,” which kind of concedes that point.

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          Funny that we can reject the high-road when it comes to misogynistic or body shaming in our messaging, but not, say, when it comes to needlessly restraining actual action with norms and procedures that Republicans can and do break at every convenience.

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          Yeah so we should all give in to the lowest common denominator and allow ourselves to be dragged backwards by idiots and fools who can’t make compelling arguments.

          Great advice /s

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          Yes that’s how we beat the awful people who control the world!

          Nothing causes lasting and meaningful political change like going for the low hanging and bigoted fruits! Let’s all be misogynistic for equality!

          For the record, I don’t advocate that shitlib “high road” (AKA do nothing but argue procedure and deliver empty sound bites while fascists gradually stamp down every right and liberty owed to all people) either.

          Be vicious towards the fascists. But be specific about it. Tell them exactly why they’re loathsome and what sort of treatment they deserve.

          You don’t accomplish anything by slut shaming the awful wife of a misogynistic monster. It’s like mud wrestling with a pig.

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        Yeah, shaming her for nude photos is pretty fucking weak and, imo, just detracts from any point you’re trying to make

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            I’ll shame him for any god damned thing I please.

            You know who broadcast those news photos on national TV right after shitler won the last election? Putin.

            Shitler hasn’t ever been big on dignity, but a few decades ago neither political party would have allowed a candidate whose spouse had such photos to run.

            Yeah it’s a truly minor issue especially with how egregious everything else is these days, but it’s still a real and legitimate issue regardless of your feelings on sex work or equity or fairness.

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              “no! when they go low we have to go high!” So high that we sail right over alleged high ground that we covet and allow morons to run the country!

              if we are mean we are just as bad as those meanies that are ruining the country! logic-ally speaking of course! but seriously trumps wife is a literal prostitute.

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              Yeah it’s a truly minor issue especially with how egregious everything else is these days, but it’s still a real and legitimate issue regardless of your feelings on sex work or equity or fairness.

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                My husband finally watched Billy Madison this year and I’ve been thrilled because I can finally reference this scene to my heart’s content and he’ll know what I’m taking about.

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              You know who broadcast those news photos on national TV right after shitler won the last election? Putin.

              The billionaire war criminal who profited off the destruction of the USSR is also a misogynist, what’s your point?

              a few decades ago neither political party would have allowed a candidate whose spouse had such photos to run.

              And you understand that was/is due to their misogyny right?

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              True. Pointing out a double standard has value, but they picked something imaginary instead of all the other criticisms that were directed at Obama and not Trump. Occupy Democrats has been consistently pretty crap tbh. Lots of twisted facts even if the spirit is in the right place.