• But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world
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    Ahem…. Bernie.

    The 2025 Bernie people are definitely a cult, talk about beating a dead horse. It also shows the hypocrisy of all the “we want all the old white wealthy dudes out of politics!” And then demanding Bernie. Also Bernie is great at pointing out the bullshit but never has a plan to replace it. Having said that I love and agree with his views for the most part, but I don’t lip service, when I mean I want old white men out I mean all, not just the ones I dislike.

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      Bernie is one of the few politicians with a plan.

      The fan club can be annoying in peddling conspiracies, but if there’s one thing that I’ve learned over the past decade, it’s that no political alignment absolves people from fucking stupidity.

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      LOL

      “Bernie doesn’t have a plan”

      Bernie got 200,000+ Americans a living wage simply by getting off his ass and giving speeches at Disney and Amazon, bringing media coverage to their shitty labor practices. This was while Democrats sat on their hands and pretended that they’re powerless.

      It’s unreasonable to expect people not to be bitter when Democrats rigged primaries against him and served us up two Donald Trump presidencies.

      People aren’t Bernie cultists. It’s just a novelty when there’s a federal legislator who says things and then walks the walk.

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      Also Bernie is great at pointing out the bullshit but never has a plan to replace it.

      Is this really the case, or is it that his plans don’t get a lot of analysis and detailed criticism because we all know the rest of the government will never pass it? And I don’t mean this as a Bernie-defending retort — I don’t follow him closely but I thought he’s proposed plenty of legislation and laid out changes in his speeches. His history in defending people that are not white dudes is pretty legit too, of course.

      And given that he’s old, rich, and has his heart in the right place, I bet he would instantly jump at the chance to be exiled from washington along with all the other elderly people.

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      That’s US politics as a whole. Ever since the first Trump presidency a blue MAGA has been forming in the democrat camp. They’ve taken over pretty much all representation online by now. Bernie is also a victim of this by a similar left-lib MAGA forming around him.

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        Except Bernie gets a ton of criticism from his left for his unwillingness to act on gaza.

        The joke among Bernie supporters has always been “Bernie is the compromise”.

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          I wouldn’t say those are Bernie supporters. They’re left of Bernie as you’ve noted.

          Yet many left-libs are willing to throw theory out of the window just to have a chance to slightly nudge the democrats to the left. His supporters are willing to leave class consciousness and struggle behind for some crumps of concessions. Those left of Bernie who are not his supporters, don’t.

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      I think Bernie inspired a movement that is quoted because he has many good ideas that can help people. Other “cults” don’t help anyone other than themselves and wreck shop.

      Finding a problem is part of being productive. Just because people find the problem doesn’t mean they can have a solid solution. But our government is built on adjusting. It has not been adjusted. The corporations have duped the American people into believing that their guidance is in their best interest in every way possible.

      The exit strategy is restructure or complete annihilation and then rebuild. History has proven this many times. See Egypt, Rome, France, England ect.