• kreskin@lemmy.worldOP
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      22 hours ago

      Impeaching would be a pointless game.

      Disagree, because I think a big part of politics is posturing, arguing, presenting your data as best you can, and putting on a show to get people charged enough to get off the couch. Its manufacturing support. So Jeffries job should be much more than just occasionally voting.

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        Not only that but defending himself from impeachment takes resources away from all the other awful shit Trump is doing.

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      22 hours ago

      Right? Genuinely what the fuck is impeachment doing at this point? Nothing. The answer, at best, is obviously “nothing”, and you’d have to be deluded to think otherwise.

      I don’t even mean the obvious inevitability that it wouldn’t remove Trump; I mean that, at best, it wouldn’t sway public opinion effectively whatsoever. Trump right now is hanging himself by his own noose, and if anything, an impeachment could put angry Republicans on the defensive by redirecting their attention through a partisan lens.

      Impeachment should not be a priority; it’s patently a waste of time at this point, especially if Democrats win a House majority and can at least work to meaningfully slow Republicans’ flood of garbage.

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        20 hours ago

        I don’t follow your logic here. You know what slows a flood of garbage legislation? Forcing impeachment over and over

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          19 hours ago

          Forcing impeachment over and over

          I’m not even going to dignify this with a smarmy “wow, look at the strategic genius on display here” and breakdown of why this is dumb, because that’d be an insult to other people reading this.

          This is plainly the dumbest idea imaginable. House Democrats impotently jerking themselves off on the national stage over and over again is a strategy completely divorced from reality; Trump, by being such an astoundingly terrible leader, may have given them one more chance to turn the country around, and the second they actually seize on that (see: the article), your grand idea is to overshadow Republicans’ ire toward Trump and piss away all precious political momentum in a torturously useless quagmire of “orange man bad!” instead of at least attempting something feasibly useful.

          Just agonizingly stupid. Also, you clearly have zero idea how “slowing down Republicans’ flood of garbage” (notice I didn’t say “legislation”; I meant generally) works if you think that it helps to hold impeachment hearings over and over if Democrats already have the majority.

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            Congress’s main duties are legislation, budgeting and impeachment. To fully realize those powers they need a super majority or a cooperative president, and they’ll have neither.

            The administration will veto any legislation and has fucked with budgets. There is quite literally nothing useful Congress can do (unless you think they’ll have a sufficient super-majority) except obstruct or compromise with fascists.

            If they had the power to do anything useful I would expect several Constitutional amendments to top the list along with impeaching the whole executive branch and some Supreme Court justices. But they won’t have that so what performative bullshit would you rather have them do?