• Gates9@sh.itjust.works
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    8 hours ago

    Jon carries a lot of water for the idea that the Democratic Party leadership are inept.

    They are not. They accomplish every task they set out to.

    The problem is that they don’t want the same things the voters in the party want.

    They don’t want to “win”. The only thing they want is to maintain their proximity to wealth and power, and so they have cast their lot with the oligarchy, the same as Republicans.

    The Democratic Party ”runs cover” (“block tackle” for you Europeans) for the Republicans while the Republicans overtly dismantle democracy. There is always a parliamentarian or a “blue slip rule” to help the Dems steal defeat from the jaws of victory. How many times do they need to strain credulity and invent some new excuse or mechanism for their failure for it to form a composite image of collaboration?

    The Democratic Party is a honeypot used to attract and neutralize progressive policies and politicians, and prevent the “Overton Window” of American politics from moving left.

    At every crucial moment they have supported the privatization and financialization of the commons, the wars of aggression, the surveillance & police state, and they will continue to do so until Palantir storm troopers are dragging people from their Blackrock housing to Amazon work camps to fulfill their mandated techno feudal district conscription period.

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      All of this is true, but by saying it you might somehow influence the outcome of an election in a manner that favors Republicans.

      Therefore I hate you with every fiber of my being and denounce you as a Sockpuppet of an Enemy Nation.

      I just haven’t decided if you’re a Russian Bot, a Chinese Wumao, or an Ayatollah Accomplice. Perhaps all three.

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      6 hours ago

      I think you’re wrong. Or rather, I think you’re mostly wrong.

      Like, in no way do I think they are extremely good at what they do, unless your argument is that they don’t give a shit, which I also think is wrong. They definitely want to win. They definitely want to control things. They literally make more money (not the organization, mind you, the people who run the organization) when they are in control. It is silly to think otherwise. Heck, it is safer, too!

      But, I think they are quite dumb, or maybe it’s better to think of them as out of touch. They rely on political calculus, but they’re using some pretty bad variables. Because otherwise, there wouldn’t be any progressive Democrats at all. Like, that is inherently detrimental to their centrism. Giving crumbs isn’t as useful to them as people say because it let’s others know how hungry they are for more of that. Hope is contagious.

      I think they work with what they got, and what they got is so rapidly changing that they freak out and pick what they think is the safest option over and over again. And their base hates it, but they’ll deal with that part later, there’s just too many fires for them!

      Like, sure, there’s a little bit of trying to control how progressive they can be, but they just… Suck at that, too. I dunno, man. A lot of people can skate by on incompetency, and that just feels more likely.

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      7 hours ago

      Sometimes I wonder if they don’t have a monthly secret meeting where they look at which issues appear to be up and coming and then flip a coin for which party takes which side of it. Kinda like debate club.

      It often looks more like performance art. The dems pretend to take one side of an issue, and then rally their base about how the GOP want to stop the solution or tear down current protections. And of course the GOP takes the other side and rallys their base against what the “lunatic” dems want to do (which of course the dems would never do because then the issue would be gone), and they start proposing ways to tear down whatever law already favor the democrats side.

      When the dems get in power, somehow very few of the things they proposed before actually happen. And the ones that do are so soft an executive order can undo them.

      It’s just a shell game. Perception manipulation.