Until people no longer see “Senator X (D) from Y” making headlines they are the DNC to most people.
This is so important I erased everything else I had typed…
We will not see billionaire owned media side with the current DNC or the people
We can not wait for something we know won’t happen.
It’s why I spend so much time explaining this same thing over and over again. We have to tell each other instead of hoping a billionaire will tell us how to get rid of billionaires.
I respect your efforts and understand you are doing this in good faith with a belief that change can in fact come from within the democratic party but I’m going to tell you that the democratic party is, foundationally, a capitalist, imperialist political project. You will never direct them away from the worst of their crimes because that is fundamentally what they exist to protect. No matter what you believe may change within the party leadership et al the party proper cannot and will not become what you are envisioning.
The platform you believe in is actually already the green party platform (if anyone would have bothered reading it) and I’d argue moving democratic party voters to the greens is a more viable strategy to achieve your aims than trying to force the democratic party itself to completely reject and invert its core ideology.
In my opinion we need to be doing much more than trying to organize behind electoral parties, but if thats what you believe is the solution then I want you to actually have the best chance to succeed in your goals. That pathway would be to invigorate the green party nationally and using that platform as a rallying call for the “democrats” who you believe are just waiting and hoping and fighting tirelessly for a socialist/in-any-way-left-leaning democratic party.
The dnc at this point should dissolve, allow all these “centrist and conservative democrats” to declare themselves republicans already, and actually give a space for some kind of even vaguely left party in america to take its place. The greens are the party you think the democrats should be, and I’d bet if you argued for them you’d have a whole lot more people who would be receptive and even give you a blank slate as far as their perception of the greens which you can help shape by being a representative of progressive empathy based politics. It saves you a ton of strife and headache while doing basically twice as much to expedite your desire political outcomes. There you will also have the benefit of not having to rebuild the party in your image, because the influx of support would be so large the new members would basically be able to lead the party in whatever direction they saw fit.
Genuinely. I’m trying to do more grassroots community organizing but if youre trying to do electoral politics within the current political climate you’re making your job much harder trying to convince both the dnc and just regular people that the democratic party will ever be different. At least consider splitting your efforts between both parties and see which one seems more responsive and interested in your ideas.
Not trying to bring down your efforts, I’m not even saying this article isn’t evidence of some minor reflection in the party, I just want to help you avoid fighting these battles over the issue and give another potential outlet for your work. I believe you have good political instincts and want whats best for people, and I want you to have the best chance at achieving your goals expeditiously.
but I’m going to tell you that the democratic party is, foundationally, a capitalist, imperialist political project. You will never direct them away from the worst of their crimes because that is fundamentally what they exist to protect. No matter what you believe may change within the party leadership et al the party proper cannot and will not become what you are envisioning.
There’s ~400 people that vote for chair, and if a Dem be ones president they just vote for who the president said to.
That means if Ken lets a fair primary and AOC runs…
Shed likely pick the next chair, then the next cuz you know she’d get re-elected.
That’s almost a decade. During which time some of those ~400 are going to be replaced and while slow it’s been trending left and this would accelerate it.
But as long as a good D keeps winning, they can keep naming chairs, and thus control of the entire political apparatus
The dnc at this point should dissolve
This is the absolute worst time since FDR’s super majorities to dissolve the party. Before we can do that we need to change the system that gives so much power to the parties.
The party is a weapon and we’ve finally got it by the handle and the pointy end aimed at the shitty people.
We can’t break it when we’re literally fighting fascism and parties are insanely powerful.
First we squash the modern Republican party, then when we have the overwhelming supermajority under a D, we can change the system.
We can’t skip the part where parties aren’t necessary before dismantling our own party. And to do that we need a progressive super majority.
This is so important I erased everything else I had typed…
We will not see billionaire owned media side with the current DNC or the people
We can not wait for something we know won’t happen.
It’s why I spend so much time explaining this same thing over and over again. We have to tell each other instead of hoping a billionaire will tell us how to get rid of billionaires.
I respect your efforts and understand you are doing this in good faith with a belief that change can in fact come from within the democratic party but I’m going to tell you that the democratic party is, foundationally, a capitalist, imperialist political project. You will never direct them away from the worst of their crimes because that is fundamentally what they exist to protect. No matter what you believe may change within the party leadership et al the party proper cannot and will not become what you are envisioning.
The platform you believe in is actually already the green party platform (if anyone would have bothered reading it) and I’d argue moving democratic party voters to the greens is a more viable strategy to achieve your aims than trying to force the democratic party itself to completely reject and invert its core ideology.
In my opinion we need to be doing much more than trying to organize behind electoral parties, but if thats what you believe is the solution then I want you to actually have the best chance to succeed in your goals. That pathway would be to invigorate the green party nationally and using that platform as a rallying call for the “democrats” who you believe are just waiting and hoping and fighting tirelessly for a socialist/in-any-way-left-leaning democratic party.
The dnc at this point should dissolve, allow all these “centrist and conservative democrats” to declare themselves republicans already, and actually give a space for some kind of even vaguely left party in america to take its place. The greens are the party you think the democrats should be, and I’d bet if you argued for them you’d have a whole lot more people who would be receptive and even give you a blank slate as far as their perception of the greens which you can help shape by being a representative of progressive empathy based politics. It saves you a ton of strife and headache while doing basically twice as much to expedite your desire political outcomes. There you will also have the benefit of not having to rebuild the party in your image, because the influx of support would be so large the new members would basically be able to lead the party in whatever direction they saw fit.
Genuinely. I’m trying to do more grassroots community organizing but if youre trying to do electoral politics within the current political climate you’re making your job much harder trying to convince both the dnc and just regular people that the democratic party will ever be different. At least consider splitting your efforts between both parties and see which one seems more responsive and interested in your ideas.
Not trying to bring down your efforts, I’m not even saying this article isn’t evidence of some minor reflection in the party, I just want to help you avoid fighting these battles over the issue and give another potential outlet for your work. I believe you have good political instincts and want whats best for people, and I want you to have the best chance at achieving your goals expeditiously.
There’s ~400 people that vote for chair, and if a Dem be ones president they just vote for who the president said to.
That means if Ken lets a fair primary and AOC runs…
Shed likely pick the next chair, then the next cuz you know she’d get re-elected.
That’s almost a decade. During which time some of those ~400 are going to be replaced and while slow it’s been trending left and this would accelerate it.
But as long as a good D keeps winning, they can keep naming chairs, and thus control of the entire political apparatus
This is the absolute worst time since FDR’s super majorities to dissolve the party. Before we can do that we need to change the system that gives so much power to the parties.
The party is a weapon and we’ve finally got it by the handle and the pointy end aimed at the shitty people.
We can’t break it when we’re literally fighting fascism and parties are insanely powerful.
First we squash the modern Republican party, then when we have the overwhelming supermajority under a D, we can change the system.
We can’t skip the part where parties aren’t necessary before dismantling our own party. And to do that we need a progressive super majority.
It’s gonna take a couple elections.