What about the “cleaning haul” channels?.. Ooh today we’re gonna clean the windows. Places camera looking from below. yada yada yada…
Russia intelligence services have been producing conspiracy theory propaganda from even before the Communist era. Adolf Hitler was radicalized in 1909 to hate Jews by “The protocols of the Elders of Zion”. That’s right, he killed 6 million Jews because he bought into Russian bullshit.
Source? Hitler was a propaganda writer himself…
Did they get rid of Shapiro & Peterson et al?
What kind of idiot brings a kilo to a mega fight?
Well, just a couple of millions more to go then.
Now do all the MAGA and Zionist shit
it’s the same thing, no?
I wish, but especially the Zionist shit is so deeply anchored in mainstream politics that they really don’t need any foreign influence.
Jews are running the world, eh?
None of the Zionists I know irl are Jewish actually
And there are plenty of jewish anti zionists, especially outside of Israel
Which jews do you mean? Are jewish people a monolith? Do they all agree on the fate of palestinian children?
The poster you are responding to specifically said zionist. You brought all jews into the conversation.
It’s actually antisemitic to assume that every Jew is a Zionist, idk what to say, thank you for your service, you are a beacon of upholding antisemitism? Smh
Oh does that Include that one guys channel that was being spread around here, reddit, and Instagram of him showing his sweet apartment and how cool and modern Chinese life was, and started making the social media rounds about a month Into trunps term?
Because that shit was obvious propaganda
I’ve came across too many .ml posts about praising North Korea, China and Russia. Had to block the whole instance.
Even !memes@lemmy.ml was full of these shit, but the mods didn’t do shit (but instead removed comments like “NK is a dictatorship”)
Lemmy dot marxist-leninist created as a communist safe-space for users leaving reddit has propaganda about communist countries and they don’t moderate it away, I’m shocked.
That’s why Lemmy as a whole was originally created in fact.
but China is doing so well! they’re certainty winning! look at all their free public transit, solar panel farms, large buildings, and many jobs!
they have so many jobs they’re literally giving them away for free! they even give these people places to live with food and everything. China even brings their whole family with them so they can all be happy and prosperous together.
it’s so much better to live in China than in the US. you’ll never leave China once you go there!
There are things China does right.
Like retirement age of 55. Like nationalising billionaires when they get too big.
It also does a shitton of things wrong, but credit when credit is due.
Absolutely. I am not the person you replied to but I have no problems admitting that China or Russia can be better than the West in some aspects, for example what you said. Likewise I have no problems saying that the West is flawed and that capitalism is killing people while billionaires rent Venice for a wedding party, in fact, I am the first opponent of that.
What I can’t stand is people claiming that North Korea is not a dictatorship, China is democratic and Russia, poor them, was forced into invading other countries.
What I can’t stand is people claiming that North Korea is not a dictatorship, China is democratic and Russia, poor them, was forced into invading other countries
I signed on .ml because that was the second most popular instance at that time; there are so many people in .ml enamoured with USSR, whitewashing it, that I tend to skip local posts because it’s not worth it. They behave like people brainwashed by USA propaganda but with different polarization.
Sometimes I think they might be CIA shills/bots created to discourage people from socialist movements.
Btw - China does have local elections where people pick their local representative. So people can pick a person, but not the ideology - that is mandated from the high. It’s not exactly what I would call democratic, but hey, the more you know
Awesome, isn’t it?
Turns out that if the government is controlling the narrative by threatening, harassing or jailing whoever dares go against it, people will only read about the good things!
Wouldn’t it be great if the US did the same thing? Could we all become a happy place like China if we tried a bit harder to make our country… I dunno… great again?
Wouldn’t it be great if the US did the same thing?
But… You do. Example - no US invader can be charged with crimes against humanity, as the standing US policy is to then invade Hague. Another example - operation Gladio. Or even fucking TikTok from recent years that bent the knee and started spewing american R/Trump propaganda after last election is USA
No no no. You are allowed to suck the cock of communist regimes only
Oh would you look at who finally grew a fucking spine.
What about the other propaganda Chanel’s?
You think they should block Lemmy?
just because the words “what about…” are used, doesn’t make an argument a whataboutism.
a whataboutism deflects from an argument or aims to derail an argument.
what the previous user did was ask for further argumentation about a directly related topic; it’s a continuation, not a deflection.
so it’s not fallacious, buta legitimate question:
you’ve banned some propaganda channels (argument is closed at this point), will you now also ban other, similar channels (new, related argument)?
since the previous argument has concluded, because yt has already enforced their views, wether right or wrong, the follow-up question is perfectly legitimate.
Whataboutism is often legit, though, as in this case.
Only took 'em at least a year and multiple fucked elections. Oh wonder.
Closer to a decade, but yes
