• Tar_Alcaran@sh.itjust.works
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      There is absolutely a systemic pressure radicalizing these men. It’s always partly their fault, but nowhere near fully

      Remember that this process almost always happens before they turn 20, and usually to young teens

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        21 hours ago

        Systemic is a rather large verb usually describing something all encompassing. Last time I checked, TokTok, Telegram, YouTube et al were single applications on cellphones one could choose to enable/ disable.

        These are self inflicted wounds.

        I get where you are coming from and agree that attention-economy algorithms have a negative outcome on a societal level. Still these are self inflicted wounds. Men aren’t children. And its not only young men, or stupid men, I personally had to cut ties with retirement aged men who had worked their entire careers in academia and still fell for this shit.

        The divorced Dad to Fascism Pipeline is real, but it is on a platform that you have to expose yourself to.

        Sidenote: moving goalposts by changing the meaning of young men to unsupervised and undereducated teenagers is unhelpful.

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        Not just systemic, but intentional. People who want to recruit for Nazi groups will hang around and give advice on “incel” forums.