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…there are people who can can give birth, people who cannot, those that “chose” to highlight the difference bringe forth “all” gender norms…fuck you…fuck you…fuck you…some humans can give birth, others can’t…fuck you…
A good chunk of these dudes are closeted self-hating homosexuals projecting and lashing out so they aren’t even TRULY motivated by lacking “a woman” except in which how much it frustrates them that they can’t feel an attachment toward these people whom they have been told are the trophy awarded for their hardships. Which is delusional and stupid of course.
Obviously it’s not a bad thing that they’re gay; it sucks that they hate themselves and feel motivated to balance it by pretending that those aspects of themselves which they hate are things for which they hate others harder. If they didn’t hate so much, maybe they’d have a shot at being happy.
Oh well. They live in a hell of their own creation. Serves them right.
In the UK that would be Red Hat => No Twat
Yes I think the bare minimum for many of us is becoming “no conservatives.”
Romantic relationships aren’t the solution and seems to me like far left guys are more susceptible to the problem than conservatives.
Communist in a happy and stable relationship reporting in.
Slowly being radicalized liberal (possibly leftist) here reporting in from a happy and stable relationship
Fuck it then, lets create a world were nobody has any sex
Noone will feel bad about being a virgin if literally everyone is a fucking virgin
Yeah that worked well for the Catholic church, let’s do that
Bunch of em are probably on Grindr with each other
Meanwhile, all the progressive poly guys I know who have figured out how to deeply respect women have more partners than they really have time for. And quite a few of them are not “good looking” by any conventional standard (though some are).
a lot of those kinda guys i knew were assholes when it came to women. like especially when you talked to them about a past ex they’d go into a rant about how they were such a bitch or whatever and how crazy she was. tbh i don’t trust any man that loves pretty words but doesn’t follow through on them in their actions.
point is the whole “good guys get pussy” thing is just world fallacy. plenty of assholes that get pussy exist.
How many progressive poly guys do you know?
I’m aro/ace and not dating, but my circle of friends is progressive and most have become poly over the last 5 years.
So I’m acquainted with probably +25 poly guys, most of whom skew progressive (but there are a few who lean more libertarian in there too, and a couple anarchists), and am good enough friends with probably 5 progressive poly guys to have a good sense what they have learned, how they treat their partners, and what their partners find appealing.
To be fair, to me polyamory looks like an insane amount of effort for the payoff - bc I am not interested in even one relationship let alone the intense effort of managing multiple. But from what I have seen, successfully being poly means learning a ton about boundaries, communication, and maintaining respect because all parties constantly have to manage jealousy and limited attention each of their partners. If you don’t respect one partner - poof!! – that relationship is over. And your other partners will likely hear about it, in detail, from both sides and litigate it bc they have a stake both in you and in being someone with you. It is a ton of drama.
But it also seems to be a crucible for learning how to negotiating needs and figuring out how to talk about it openly with each other to build connection - and that process both requires and builds respect for your partners.
Like I said, the guys I know who have stuck with it and learned the necessary people skills now have the problem of having too much interest. Including one friend who had terrible luck dating before and who I worried was on the verge of becoming an incel. Then he dated one of my first friends who was poly, and she kind of taught him in no uncertain terms how this works. Between that and his next poly girlfriend, I watched him become someone who is deeply considerate of his partners and is also confident about his boundaries and what he can offer. He’s got like 4 relationships going on, 2 of which are long term.
And again - the biggest change I saw in him was that he stopped seeing the women he wanted to date as games to win or challenges to overcome, and stopped carrying the frustration and shame that comes with the ‘failure’ to ‘score’. He still looks at women with clear desire, but that desire doesn’t make him feel like he has to be manipulative or play games.
I don’t know how to explain it except that he has a respect for the women he courts that most single guys do not. Maybe it’s that he has less to fear from rejection, so he doesn’t have to mentally dehumanize women as a coping mechanism. And this is a feature I see in most poly men, and have seen emerge in men as they fall into poly.
Actually - I’m going to ponder the ‘able to respect women more bc they have less to fear from rejection’ idea more, personally.
That alone may be a big part of their appeal, because a lot of the threat that women have to navigate when being courted is how to safely disengage if a promising flirtation turns sour. There is a lot more enthusiasm to explore or move fast when you are free to say no without fear of a possibly violent meltdown.
And poly guys aren’t going to meltdown. They are ok with a no, they are emotionally braced for that and have been through worse feelings already. And they have other relationships to fall back on.
You make an excellent case for mentorship in all this. Thank you for that. Upon reading all this, it never dawned on me that was even how anyone navigated poly.
But it also seems to be a crucible for learning how to negotiating needs and figuring out how to talk about it openly with each other to build connection - and that process both requires and builds respect for your partners.
I can say, with confidence, that even if one completely fails to leave the hypothetical realm with their monogamous partner, the thought-exercise alone carries some of these benefits. Polyamory forces the need to do some hard work, but there’s no need to actually go there when hypothetical scenarios are just as provocative. In fact, it might even function on some level for platonic relationships, where sharing time with others is a concern.
At first, it uncovers things like jealousy, envy, and co-dependence. So you hit the books - all the poly literature out there lays out how to navigate these common issues. For the rest there’s psychotherapy, which is probably needed to grow as individuals, since all those toxic behaviors are usually rooted in trauma. From there one can become stronger, and hopefully so does their relationship(s).
And poly guys aren’t going to meltdown. They are ok with a no, they are emotionally braced for that and have been through worse feelings already. And they have other relationships to fall back on.
This never occurred to me. Thank you for this invaluable insight.
like one youtubers i used to follow, there are someone for everyone. even killers/serial killers have a partner of some sort, despite knowing that they are murderers. not good looking, but have a very fun or attractive personality. the common thing that steers people away, is being broke(although not always the case), hygiene and dressing well seems to be a major one.
men with pets often gets attention too, it makes you look less creepy and more of a normal person and a potential parent.(thats why there are so many thirst traps of men(although they are already attractive) pet animal videos, like with the dodo.
Pardon, but it smacks of weird defensiveness that you feel the need to bring up that serial killers often have intimate partners as some kind of counterpoint to the fact that men who figure out how to respect women’s boundaries are highly sought as partners.
Serial killers likely find partners by being manipulative and playing mind games - ie, being psychopaths.
Clearly the evidence that men who respect women have major success fostering reliable and enjoyable relationships with them is somehow highly threatening to a lot of guys.
Something has to immediately be said that instead says “but not respecting women also works.” Followed by crude red pill thinking - “And aren’t all women dumb bc some seem to like danger? And also, women are superficial, so pretend to like a puppy bc that works a lot.”
I know media has taught men that masculinity is basically defined by being able to disrespect women and think of them as winnable objects but –
Mentally healthy women aren’t falling for that shit. And you guys hate the baggage that the traumatized ones have who are insecure enough fall for that crap.
You could give up the machismo to try… respect and growing into someone who could be happy?
That’s how I found my wife. She was very impressed with my love and care for the last living dodo, which I keep safe from extinction solely for selfish purposes.
What brand of safe do you keep the dodo in? I have a thylacine that dashes for the door whenever I come and go.
In this case a cage made of the coldest iron, same as I use for my wife.
Do you keep your wife in cage? That’s smart.
his wife is the dodo
Thank you!
After her first three failed attempts to escape from my estate, I realized something had to be done.
And, well, she already liked the dodo and I already had the cage, Bob’s your uncle, problem solved!
Did anyone rise think this was about folks who use a paid version of Linux?
What do you MEAN ‘dnf’ stands for “do not fuck”???
I mean I’m a Catholic so we aren’t allowed to do that anyway unless you are trying to have kids.
Red hat is a paid Linux distribution
Right, which uses DNF to install software
As someone left of Mamdani, why should my choice of Linux distro prevent me from having a loving feline pet?
Enterprises don’t get pets. Why else would you use RH?
Red cap, no cat?
No cap
!slang for “no lie”!<
Red hat = no cat, no cap
Good. There are values and traits that should not procreate.
“Grab 'em by the lack of pussy.”
Am I an idiot? I read this as not a LITERAL cat…
That’s the joke.
you read right. i assume this is one of those apps that find random pics that vaguely relate to the words.
It’s a screencap from a TikTok video. The creator was playing with his cat as that fit the text he used.
well 🤷
if every conservative woman hitched with every conservative man they would be 84% in a relationship.
but many conservative men are unpalatable even to conservative women
unless they are rich, they are more likely stick with them if they have the moolah.
it’s almost like being conservative comes with almost inherent traits that make someone undesirable as a partner. lack of open mindedness, critical thinking, any form of emotional maturity…
there’s a reason many conservatives in dating apps hide their beliefs. they know its a red flag for many more things than their “politics”.
lack of open mindedness, critical thinking, any form of emotional maturity…
Wasting money on loud motorcycles and huge smoke-emitting trucks …
not only that but talking about trump non-stop, having his FLAG and other paraphenelia.
That was one of the weirdest things about one partner I had. He just had to bring up how his purchase of a donald trump shaped wine bottle topper wasn’t him being in the maga cult. Like, dude, why the fuck would you have purchased it in the first place if not?
The last woman I dated before my current girlfriend was a conservative woman. I didn’t see any flags for it, she seemed really open minded, and was very well educated. Shame on me for being so blind I suppose.
She turned out to have a husband and a young son. I’m not entirely sure what to believe since cheaters will say a lot of things, but she apparently hated her marriage a lot. She wouldn’t leave due to her beliefs though.
The fact that she was cheating on her partner and lying to you is independent of the fact that she was conservative.
…but I’m also not saying there isn’t a significant overlap in that Venn diagram.
She wouldn’t leave the marriage due to beliefs, but she would cheat, huh?
And she said all that to guilt trip me about her marriage, asking that I not leave and commit to being an affair partner.
It was really uncomfortable.
sounds like the conservative way.
