Honestly it’s charisma more than anything. JFK, Johnson Clinton, gore doesn’t have it, Kerry doesn’t have it, Obama has it, Hillary doesn’t have it, Biden doesn’t really but post trump litterally a walking corpse worked. Kamala doesn’t have it, and people have goldfish memories.
Ok, but let’s not pretend gore didn’t win. It was just close enough in the final state that the supreme court gave it to Bush rather than keep recounting
Even if it wasn’t, it’s a little damning to liberals who now seem to only like a candidate if they think they are “charismatic”, which seems suspiciously ill-defined.
It’s the apathetic voters/ moderates that get on board with charisma. The right has a far more dependable base when it comes to getting out to vote. I think newsome is a scumbag but he’s a much more electable candidate than Harris. His shift to the right recently is gross and is the opposite of what Dems need. I have never liked him as a person but I used to generally agree with his positions, and was far more ok with him running before the last 8 mo or so. AOC would be a better candidate than him, she would inspire people to vote and I think she can overcome the the misogyny and racism by getting a bigger number to vote. Newsome could probably win but would be pulling more votes from Rs than he would bringing more votes to the table.
No offense, but what is even the point of your politics if it can be boiled down to, “sure, this guy has terrible policies and I hate the guy personally, but he can win so I’ll support him anyway”?
Democrats will never win if all they campaign on is ‘we just want the most charismatic person’. People already don’t have any faith in our democratic system, and now we’re just flat out telling them ‘the only thing we care about is aesthetics’.
It’s called pragmatism. Democrats might not be great as a whole but at least their policies generally trend in the right direction and things slowly get better with Democrats like him vs a rapid decline when Republicans get control. I’m not willing to burn it all down, if the other choice is slow improvement. I think he’s a true politician, which I find a distasteful trait, but mostly he’s been a decent governor and it’s really been his rhetoric lately, trying to appeal to the right, I really don’t like about him. I have young children. I can’t torch my life being radical, even if I generally lean to the far left of the spectrum.
Libs have never met a white male moderate they wouldn’t vote for over any woman of color or socialist.
Honestly it’s charisma more than anything. JFK, Johnson Clinton, gore doesn’t have it, Kerry doesn’t have it, Obama has it, Hillary doesn’t have it, Biden doesn’t really but post trump litterally a walking corpse worked. Kamala doesn’t have it, and people have goldfish memories.
Well, Bush and Trump aren’t exactly charismatic either.
Ok, but let’s not pretend gore didn’t win. It was just close enough in the final state that the supreme court gave it to Bush rather than keep recounting
This seems a little begging the question.
Even if it wasn’t, it’s a little damning to liberals who now seem to only like a candidate if they think they are “charismatic”, which seems suspiciously ill-defined.
It’s the apathetic voters/ moderates that get on board with charisma. The right has a far more dependable base when it comes to getting out to vote. I think newsome is a scumbag but he’s a much more electable candidate than Harris. His shift to the right recently is gross and is the opposite of what Dems need. I have never liked him as a person but I used to generally agree with his positions, and was far more ok with him running before the last 8 mo or so. AOC would be a better candidate than him, she would inspire people to vote and I think she can overcome the the misogyny and racism by getting a bigger number to vote. Newsome could probably win but would be pulling more votes from Rs than he would bringing more votes to the table.
No offense, but what is even the point of your politics if it can be boiled down to, “sure, this guy has terrible policies and I hate the guy personally, but he can win so I’ll support him anyway”?
Democrats will never win if all they campaign on is ‘we just want the most charismatic person’. People already don’t have any faith in our democratic system, and now we’re just flat out telling them ‘the only thing we care about is aesthetics’.
Big yikes.
It’s called pragmatism. Democrats might not be great as a whole but at least their policies generally trend in the right direction and things slowly get better with Democrats like him vs a rapid decline when Republicans get control. I’m not willing to burn it all down, if the other choice is slow improvement. I think he’s a true politician, which I find a distasteful trait, but mostly he’s been a decent governor and it’s really been his rhetoric lately, trying to appeal to the right, I really don’t like about him. I have young children. I can’t torch my life being radical, even if I generally lean to the far left of the spectrum.
Moderate?
No thank you.