• TotallyWorthLife (She/Her)@lemmy.world
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    1 hour ago

    Idk… that sounds pretty harsh and cruel. While I (currently) believe there might not be a beyond, there might be a “something” where consciousness is stuck in its last moments… if someone already has an idea of it, and they are peaceful, I won’t change their mind… I’ll just be there for them, comfort them, let their brain create the image of that happy place so they can live “stuck” in hapiness during their last moments…

    It’s pretty much the best I can hope for myself, too… convince myself that there will be something beyond just so my dying brain creates such image for me to “live” in during my last moments…

  • HostilePasta@lemmy.ml
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    3 hours ago

    Facts. Like just last week I had some Northern Unorthodox Atheists ringing my doorbell trying to tell me the good news about their “no god” or something, idk I wasn’t really listening.

    Anyway, all I had to do was start speaking Latin backwards and crawl on the ceiling to get them to leave.

  • kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world
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    Similar but reversed situation for me. My grandmother tried to guilt trip me into becoming Christian on her death bed by saying she wanted my soul to make it to heaven with her (I guess kudos to her for not saying the “instead of in hell where it’s going now” part out loud).

  • taiyang@lemmy.world
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    3 hours ago

    Very few people trying to un-convert you on your deathbed, while the plenty of people trying to convert you to a religion… because in many cases, that’s literally their belief that you can be “saved.”

    But arguing with a straw man meme is kinda pointless- especially on Lemmy, where most of you already know that, lol.

    • AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world
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      Ironically, reading religious texts and critically thinking about them are the best way to convert someone from a religion to atheism.

  • blady_blah@lemmy.world
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    As an atheist, I never bring up my beliefs unless asked. My religious friends and relatives on social media spout their shit non-stop. If I did 1/10th of that they’d be up in arms.

    This post just seems like a straw man to try and keep atheists invisible.

    • binarytobis@lemmy.world
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      1 hour ago

      Annoying militant atheists are definitely rarer than annoying militant christians, but they do exist. Especially on reddit. One of the reasons I enjoy lemmy is that those people are rarer.

      Fun side fact: I knew one of my two best friends for over a decade before finding out they were christian. They had been wearing the same cross necklace under their shirt that whole time. We just never talked about it because it didn’t come up and they aren’t preachy.

    • taiyang@lemmy.world
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      3 hours ago

      Correct, plus if it’s reddit it’s possibly a bot created specifically to make that straw man real. Christians in particular have a persecution fetish, after all.

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        They found Russian agents working through social media to widen rifts in the US electorate, specifically on the vaccine debate. They had agents playing both sides: pro-vax and anti-vax.

        Who knows how many entities are doing this right now? On which topics? On which social networks?

        So, yes, fake atheists being assholes, but also fake Christians being assholes. You are always being manipulated. There is never a time you are not being manipulated.

  • HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world
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    I feel like Reddit atheists are far too commonly given the spotlight, and intentionally so by theocratic fascists.

    There are countless genuinely terrible things about organized religion and its role and influence in society. This conversation absolutely needs to be had. Nobody serious is going to grieving or dying people to shit on their coping skills using religion.

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      Well, the US certainly needs to have a discussion about organized Christianity. That’s the only religion I ever see getting up in my business.

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      Idk i think atheism is just as presumptuous and asinine as theism.

      Atheists don’t tend to fall down the nationalism - fascism hole quite as frequently, but they can be just as annoying.

      I just don’t know what’s wrong with admitting we don’t know. We can’t perceive everything and there is still too much mystery for me to subscribe to anything. That being said, I do not use the promise of an afterlife to live well, I justify that by making happiness my goal, I just can’t say definitively there is nothing going on beyond what we know, spiritually speaking. I don’t think any religion has gotten it right because how could they if we can’t perceive everything?

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        if enough people started saying so, would you think theres a chance that shoelaces are sentient even though theres no evidence to support that and all reasonable evidence supports the opposite conclusion? ofc not, so why should i entertain the idea of gods. hmu when you have some evidence.

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          You are walking, talking evidence of militant atheists being asinine.

          I will not be elaborating.

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              I don’t know you and I have no obligation to be kind to strangers. You’ll live, I’m sure.

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                3 hours ago

                just dropping an ad hominem and peacing is a poor way to engage in my opinion. be well.

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                  3 hours ago

                  I’ll give that, I shouldn’t have called you asinine. I will rephrase.

                  Your behaviour is asinine – and not making me any less annoyed at militant atheists.

    • thedeadwalking4242@lemmy.world
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      Absolutely, You can be actively in the process of dying and they will be bible thumping your chest.

      I don’t go door to door telling people they should be atheist but at least once a year someone knocks on my door to talk to me about Christ.