• Diplomjodler@lemmy.world
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    4 days ago

    I absolutely believe that giving guns to everybody is a really dumb idea. But if I was living in the present day US, I’d start stocking up on guns and ammo and practice shooting.

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      4 days ago

      If it comes to the point when you need to use a gun to defend yourself, you’ve already lost. None of the existential threats to a person in US, existing or future, can be solved by shooting at it. You can make a lot of things whole lot worse by introducing armed conflict to it, but nothing can be made better by it. If I was a conspiratorial type, I would say that making the left gun-happy is a psyop by fascists, because there is very little things is as dangerous to a healthy society as the ubiquity of guns, and fasch can’t thrive in a healthy society.

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        None of the existential threats to a person in US, existing or future, can be solved by shooting at it.

        Wrong.

        Fascism is here. It is not an existential threat. And fascism always has to be responded to with force. Fascists do not respond to politely phrased requests or democratic elections.

        You can make a lot of things whole lot worse by introducing armed conflict to it, but nothing can be made better by it.

        Are you unaware of WW2?

        there is very little things is as dangerous to a healthy society as the ubiquity of guns

        This isn’t a healthy society.

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          I think you’re misunderstanding what existential means.

          An existential threat refers to a danger that could potentially lead to the extinction of humanity or drastically reduce our long-term potential. Common examples include nuclear war, severe climate change, and pandemics.

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        4 days ago

        None of the existential threats to a person in US, existing or future, can be solved by shooting at it

        I think we are referring to other humans with guns, which can in fact be solved by shooting them. In fact, that’s SOP for SWAT, who are the kind of people you want well-armed … assuming you also have an inclusive, pluralistic, liberal democracy to govern them.

        Root cause here is cultural. US needs denazification, according to the original pre-Putin definition of the word, exact same way post-WWII German society became… an inclusive, pluralistic, liberal democracy

      • SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world
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        This country is already lost.

        Not a single person in a position of power is willing to dethrone the oligarchs, it will only be done through violence.

        Either these are the tools that will change things, or the tools that will tak out as many of the enemy as possible before they kill you.

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        If it comes to the point when you need to use a gun to defend yourself, you’ve already lost.

        Did you miss the bit where people are being ICEd?
        They’ve already lost.

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      4 days ago

      Maybe we can just pool together money and arm the unions. Imagine how hard mass-layoffs would be if unions had a missile launcher.