But they need their guns in case a fascist government takes over and becomes a police state threatening to take away their rights and liberties.
Waitaminute…
They who have guns want the police state.
It’s all the lefties who haven’t listened to Marx who don’t have guns.
Bad timing for this meme. I do not trust the cops, esepcially not now. Correct course of action is to disband the police and create well-regulated militias (regulated by the people themselves, not the state). I see you’re from dbzer0, you should know that cops aren’t to be trusted.
Also: Dems really need to drop the gun issue if they hope to win an election, going “Beto O’ Rourke” every election isn’t helping.
Context: The moment where Democrats lost Texas Gubernatorial Election: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QR4mNrW0AlE
Correct course of action is to disband the police and create well-regulated militias (regulated by the people themselves, not the state).
The vast majority of people in smaller, more rural areas are 100% happy with what’s going on.
What you’re suggesting would mean that any time you’d drive through a new municipality/town/village, you’d have to learn a new set of rules and laws. You’d end up with “legal” lynchings in some smaller communities. It would be absolute chaos.
But…but … but they need those guns just in case a weirdo tries to take over the government.
Or if a pants shitting reality TV ‘star’ goes full revenge mode when he becomes president.
Or if a child rapist, who is also a Russian asset, but who’s also the best friend to a proven and convicted human trafficking paedo blackmailer strolls in and overtakes the Whitehouse and takes his KKK mask off and hops in to being a full on fascist dictator!If any of the above ever happened you’ll be glad that the Gravy Seals™ had all those guns to stop it all.
Not that the above could ever happen. Imagine that, imagine if one of those things ever happened? Wow, Impossible!! Just impossible.
…hey, wait a minute!!!6400 kids (10-24) successfully kill themselves every year in the US, and 2 MILLION attempt to
AI 1
Lack of access to proper mental health care: too many
Are there stats for kids killed by these monstrous pick ups? Dodge Ram, hummers etc
I don’t know about lifted pickups in general, but the NHTSA recorded that there were 39,345 traffic fatalities in the US in 2024. So OP’s chart is missing a few lines.
- Traffic Deaths: 39,345 (in 2024)
- Killed By Police: 1,365 (recorded in 2024)
- Medical Malpractice Deaths: 250,000 (estimated annual)
- Preventable Deaths due to Illness: 44,000 (lowerbound annual estimate)
- Malnutrition Deaths: 6,762 (in 2022)
So, yeah. Our politicians, capitalist overlords, and a fucked up for-profit medical system are killing us all either by inches or just outright, at the rate of a combined hundreds of thousands per year. But ermahgerd, gunz!!!
Here’s what I’ve often wondered: why, when the Constitution clearly indicates that bearing of arms is in the context of a" well-regulated militia", is it not permissible, under the Constitution, to regulate firearms? Do the second amendment types have any kind of argument about this? It just seems to me that within the context of the amendment itself, it’s clearly implied that regulation will be necessary and will exist. Is there something that I’m missing?
Yes. The text of the 2nd amendment is contested and several states passed different punctuation, which changes the meaning.
The most favorable version for individual gun ownership reads:
A well regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed.
The placement of the comma there makes the well regulated militia part an introductory clause, which explains the purpose of the second part protecting individual gun ownership.
That combined with the historical context that anyone called into miltia service was expected to provide their own gun is the justification for individual gun ownership being a protected right.
The more common text passed by congress is more ambiguous because it introduces an explanatory clause as part of the introductory clause, but you can still read it that way, which the supreme court currently has.
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
If you cared at all you’d actually read up on the context and interpretation of the 2nd amendment.
Or, and stick with me, here, maybe I’m asking the question in hopes I can discuss it with someone that has already read up on it and find out that way? Maybe I can learn some viewpoints of others in this thread that might illuminate the answer more quickly and succinctly. What is the point of communicating with others if I can’t seek information through it?
3000 people died one time in 2001 and the US government used the fear and rage to wage war and commit war crimes in WW2 multiple countries including those that had nothing to do with the attack for the next 20 years.
3000 children die at least every two years in the US and there’s not enough fear and rage to wage war on the fucking NRA.
kinda makes you wish the gun manufacturers and their lobbyists were a bunch of brown skinned people, that shit would’ve been shut down pretty damn quick huh.
If you extrapolate from FBI data, 90%+ of gun deaths come from handguns. Banning handguns is a hopeless endeavor - there are two Supreme Court cases from 2008 and 2010 that effectively cement handgun ownership as a constitutional right.
You could try a couple pages out of the California playbook with the handgun roster and ammo background checks to make getting them and using them kind of a pain in the ass.
I honestly don’t know what you do otherwise to make dent otherwise.
Well, that latest mass shooting in the media was done by a trans person, yea? And Trump’s busy deploying National Guard units to most blue states in an authoritarian/fascist push…
So I imagine, that the left may have a chance of getting gun control on the agenda this time. Though it may not look like how they want it to. It’d be gun control to deny lgbtq+ and blue voters guns.
Welcome to the comments: Here you’ll find
- various reasons it’s important Americans have guns (yet to see that armed resistance)
- discussion about out all the other stuff killing American kids
- at the bottom relevant stats from other countries without widespread firearm ownership
Your telling me the country with more guns has more gun deaths, wow impossible to predict.
This is statistically meaningless, you want to look at the violent crime rate overall, the murder rate overall, etc.
Like I can guarantee Minnesota has more freezing deaths than Texas. That doesn’t say anything about if freezing deaths are a major issue or not. We need a statistical analysis of total murder rate not raw numbers
You’re saying the US doesn’t have a higher homicide rate than other high-income countries?
No, I’m saying it does and that’s the stat that matters
And there’s probably a reason for that. Hmm, I wonder what it could be?
3600…so far.
What’s killing our children?
A slave economy that stresses everyone and drives them to hopelessness. A carefully engineered school to prison pipeline. A broken culture that encourages anyone with the slightest bit of authority to mercilessly persecute those below them while ignoring any crimes committed by those above.
We have had guns for hundreds of years, guns aren’t the problem … hopelessness and aiming them at the wrong people is.
IDF: 36000
I thought it was way more
