The man accused of assassinating the top Democrat in the Minnesota House held deeply religious and politically conservative views, telling a congregation in Africa two years ago that the U.S. was in a “bad place” where most churches didn’t oppose abortion.

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    Deeply conservative and religious.

    What a coincidence, that’s the favorite kind of person to hate on around here.

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      Remember, this is second, third, maybe fourth-hand information. Consuming it and taking it seriously is like eating a used rubber you found in a public restroom. (Epistemologically speaking)

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            Sure, that’s the human condition, you do it too, you’re doing it right now, but I also am informed on current events and history that inform me outside of my own biases. Just turns out religious conservatives consistently and regularly do way more fucked up shit than most others, and secular people seem to get along much better socially and psychologically.

            I’ve never had the issue, as a non religious or conservative person, of feeling obligated to defend child rape nor domestic terrorism, but you do you, boo.

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              Yes, all of you say it in chorus now. “We are all well informed, self aware, free thinking and rational.”

              The fact that you opine in lockstep is clearly the product of nothing but right-think.

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                Some of us are capable of that, as much as it seems like a far fetched non reality to you, it is very much possible to show objectivity and judge religious conservatism in a negative light.

                Also, both religious and conservative beliefs independently of one another are literally opining in lockstep, that’s their whole schtick, so you’re attacking yourself far more than anyone else.

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      Please stop spreading this. He will be charged by the state which would require the Minnesota Pardon Board to vote to pardon him. That’s the Governor, the State AG and the Chief Justice of the state Supreme Court. 2/3 would be required to vote in favor of a pardon.

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        It’s a satirical joke. Not like this regime hasn’t been escalating in its practices of bypassing law and regulations already. What’s one more broken regulation for some convoluted reason which will get zero push back on?

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          It might have been intended as a joke but I, and I’m sure thousands of other Minnesotans, don’t find it funny. It also serves to normalize the behavior of America’s wannabe despot and spreads misinformation to those who don’t know better.

          Responding to a polite request with some variation of “It was just a joke” speaks volumes.

          Intent is different from impact; we may intend a comment in one way, but it may be interpreted by others differently. Importantly: we are responsible for the impact, not just the intent, of our words and actions.

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    Alas, it’s the right religion and the right skin color so at this time we’re ruling out that this was anything but the misguided actions of a deeply unwell individual.

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    I can’t believe sleepy joe personally trained and planned this. The bumbling idiot super evil genius. And then the cops didn’t stop him at the house. Trump would have thrown a dirty diaper at the shooter and he would have exploded.

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      If someone had shot the top MAGA leader in Minnesota you wouldn’t be blaming religion, even if they were as overtly religious as this guy.

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        Nice whataboutism.

        Too bad that hypothetical is statistically unlikely, as the extremely religious are predominantly pro-MAGA by an overwhelming amount, to the point it could be readily argued that, if your hypothetical was true, it would be done in spite of their religious beliefs, not because of it.

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    Duh.

    Christian conservatives are scary people prone to violence. They are ticking timebombs and it’s safest to avoid them as much as possible.

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      That’s because Jesus famously said: go forth and kill the people you disagree with.

      Seriously, I can’t reconcile how those Christians can go to church every week and just completely ignore the teachings of the woke, antifascism, anticapitalism dude, you know… Christ himself.

      Can somebody explain this to me? I genuinely can’t wrap my head around it.

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        Jesus didn’t want to be worshiped.

        Every Christian goes against the teachings of Christ by default.

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        The most important thing for people, and by people I mean all of us at times, is in-group belonging. None of us are immune to that. We look to our peers for cues on how to behave and what to believe.

        Some people consider like scientists and experts in-group, and trust them. Some don’t.

        This need for in-group cohesion is more important than facts and figures. It’s more important than the text of some book.

        So when all your friends and family are saying that Christianity means one thing, it’s unlikely you’re going to disagree.

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        Having grown up catholic in rural Illinois, it’s just a case of mixed messaging and infiltration. Think of it like this:

        You inherited a chili recipe—representing your morality and culture—from your parents. Growing up, you helped make it every week, so you know the flavors well. In your family’s version of chili, beans—symbolizing religion—were always the most important ingredient. Peppers—representing politics—were known, but they were more of a background note, never central.

        Fast forward a generation, and a certain group starts promoting the idea that chili must be spicy. They want to sell their own particular kind of pepper—a harsh, punishing version of God—and they push this idea aggressively. They use people your parents trust, who already like spicier chili, to reinforce the message.

        Suddenly, everyone around you starts loading their chili with these peppers because they’re told it’s the only way to avoid bland chili—blandness, in this case, representing hell. The fear of tasteless chili becomes a powerful motivator.