New drone sightings were reported over Denmark’s largest military base overnight, Danish security authorities said on Saturday.

Broadcaster DR cited the armed forces as saying unidentified drones were seen near military installations.

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      I think we are already in it.

      Its not a war fought by tanks in most places. Its a psy-ops/information war, turning populations and genders against eachother as a first step.

      People wait for the third world war to be “announced” because otherwise they dont think we are in one.

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        The fact that asking for proof gets you downvoted means this place is hungry for war.

        God forbid we want proof before we invade a country. Surely someday we’ll find that yellowcake uranium.

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          Bullshit. We’re hungry for Russia to stop fucking with the rest of the world, and for Russian trolls to stop playing these stupid games of “let’s you and him fight.” We’re also hungry for people like you to realize the EU is not the United States, and this isn’t Dubya going on about imaginary WMDs in Iraq.

          In case you have forgotten, Russia is already occupying another country’s territory after launching a brutal, unprovoked invasion. They’ve already demonstrated a willingness to engage in both conventional and hybrid warfare to steal land and destroy cultures they consider illegitimate.

          Stop fucking defending them.

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            “Hey can we have evidence?”

            “You want evidence? You’re defending them!”

            “…Sorry for this but we’re in court right now, you can’t just accuse people of crimes.”

            “WHO ELSE COULD HAVE DONE THIS?”

            “No idea, let’s figure it out with logic and reasoning. Maybe we can track the drones and -”

            “I’ve heard enough, guilty.”

            Well lemme know when we find the yellowcake uranium, since not finding it is proof they’re hiding it.

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              Wait… You’re proposing that Ukraine would feel like stirring shit up with Denmark, because it would somehow get Russia to stop focusing on them?

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            Sure it’s likely, but again:

            God forbid we want proof before we invade a country.

            Meanwhile in the 1910s:

            Can you think of ANYONE ELSE with anything to gain from blowing up the USS Maine besides Spain?

            Meanwhile in the Gulf of Tonkin:

            Can you think of ANYONE ELSE with anything to gain from this besides Vietnam?

            If it’s Russia, let’s do something about it. Hopefully something more than a slap on the wrist while sitting buying their oil and natural gas.

            But if we don’t have proof, we’re just doing the Operation Iraqi Liberation again based on false information.

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              This reminds me of an interaction I had with a classmate on 9/11. The planes crashed into the tower and the teachers were showing us on TV, and my classmate was certain it was the Chinese because, “they attacked Americans at Pearl Harbor.”

              I’m of Japanese decent so I was a little torn about how I should react. I wanted to correct her that it was actually the Japanese, but I also didn’t want to seem like I’m taking credit for a heinous act.

              The irony was that she was Arab, so she probably ended up being on the butt end of racial profiling once more detail was available.

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        Are you joking? Of course they were Russian. This soon after the previous batch were shot down, who else would they be from?

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            No don’t ask for tracking drones and evidence! That’s evil and wrong!

            Just agree with the media and the state, they’ve never manufactured a war out of nothing before. Especially not in the age of misinformation .

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            No one else has been invading the airspace of countries near Russia. No one else has been making it a habit to send drones in and then pretend it wasn’t them. Why would Sweden send drones over Denmark? Or Norway? Or Germany? Or Poland? Or Finland? None of its direct neighbors are at odds with them or experiencing any military tensions with them.

            There is exactly one regional power that believes it has a claim on the territories of all its neighbors, and all their neighbors: Russia.

            It’s Russia. No one seriously believes Sweden or anyone else in the region is sending drones to military installations and airports.

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          Yes so follow the drone and see where it goes using a helicopter or plane.

          They detect they drone. They track the drone. They refuse to shoot it down out of fear for debris. But why not track it and see where it lands?

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            Because it takes time to get a vehicle in the air to go after them, time in which the drones might be gone and all you have to go by is their last heading when they could’ve changed direction, split up, and traveled a hundred kilometers in different directions before heading for where they actually came from. All while you can’t follow them into somebody else’s air space because drones are too small to be picked up on standard radar but a helicopter or plane certainly aren’t, which means that it could look like you’re invading their air space. This also means that the drones could potentially have traveled through multiple countries undetected before arriving at their destination, so you can’t even assume that they came from those countries even if you do manage to track them to their air space.

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              “I can confirm that we had an incident around 8:15 pm (1815 GMT Friday) that lasted for some hours. One to two drones were observed outside and over the airbase,” duty officer Simon Skelsjaer told AFP, referring to the Karup military base.

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            First, it’s probably almost impossible to “track” it they way you described. Drones fly faster than helicopters and even if not, drones don’t just sit and wait to be intercepted. By the time helicopters or jets would be scrambled, the drone would be long gone.

            Second, I’m fairly certain that it’s not necessary to track them visually by following them. They’re already being tracked by radars and scanners.

            Third, why? So you track the drone all the way to Russian borders, you cannot enter Russia or you will violate their airspace and risk getting shot down and escalating further. So now that you know where it came from, what’s next?

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        Because that would be evil, somehow. Instead let’s wildly speculate and go with whatever seems likely in the fog of war and misinformation.

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      Drone debris is no joke. Most likely they don’t destroy them to avoid damage to their infrastructure.

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      They are not like seagulls or other birds. These fly very high very fast and are difficult to hit

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          Before you launch an airplane though, they are gone. You can’t have planes in the air at all times defending a whole country from drones

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            You don’t need planes in the air 24/7, you need good radar and radio detection equipment.

            Regardless, my point is drones are neither high flying nor fast. They’re often able to be caught by helicopters, which also are not high flying or fast. Very high and very fast, simultaneously, is SR-71 levels of performance.

            They are indeed hard to hit given their size.

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              I imagine the commentator thinking one can shoot them down with a riffle or something similar. The point is, that you can’t just launch a plane to go after drones. Especially in a country like Denmark that only has a few military bases and even fewer that have planes that can shoot.

              Sure, drones are not as fast as planes, but they are way faster than seagulls

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      Denmark is densely populated. Most rounds fired at a drone won’t hit, and will come down somewhere. Rounds designed to explode in the air occasionally don’t.

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    So what’s the advantage of drones over a good satellite, if you ain’t actually flying at ground level? It’s all psyops, right?

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      Most likely a psyop. Europe has been doing a lot of false flagging to get people scared so they can get money for weapons. Most recently they lied about Russia blowing up that roof in Poland which was their own missile.