The protest movement in the United States is growing, but so is the global authoritarian playbook it’s up against.

  • TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
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    18 days ago

    The idea being promoted here is that Americans can sit on the sidelines.

    In-fact, if you look at recent history, the ONLY things that have stopped authoritarians is mass protest.

  • SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world
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    18 days ago

    Oh nooo if we protest then he gets to declare martial law

    And if we don’t protest then he declares martial law

    Ohhhh noooooo

  • Snot Flickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    18 days ago

    He will use any excuse, whether people protest or not. He will say it’s a rebellion if people just disagree with him politely.

    The more people are willing to speak up and stand up, the less control he actually has. The more we cower in fear over what he might do when he’s going to do it anyway the more power we’re actually giving him.

  • pelespirit@sh.itjust.works
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    18 days ago

    What’s the trap? I read that thing and I still have no idea. We embarrassed tf out of trump on his birthday. He had to tease that he’s starting a war with Iran to make himself feel better about it.

    This is a job he has that the republicans can fire him from at any point. Protesting is letting the republicans, who are never safe even if trump is, know that their jobs are also on the line.

    • VagueAnodyneComments@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      18 days ago

      you understand that war with Iran and the escalation of ICE raids in response to No Kings protests is significantly worse and in no way impeded by people marching with signs right?

      embarrassing Trump is kayfabe to let the Volk blow off steam

      they’re doing a fascist imperial war expansion whether people “peacefully protest” or not, so it is time for better tactics or removing oneself from the conflict so as not to be useful to fascists

        • VagueAnodyneComments@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          yes this is why they are ineffective against a regime that started a war yesterday and readied their deathcamps a month ago

          you can’t instantly build a peaceful resistance movement after abandoning the one in 2020 and increasing funding for the violent police

          USA’s shot at doing peaceful resistance is over, that’s not the shape of the problem anymore

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                18 days ago

                I don’t beat up cripples

                EDIT: he did indeed slide into my DMs proposing violence

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                18 days ago

                After taking a second look at his comments and some of the weird phrases he used in his DMs to me, that guy is 100% not an American

                • VagueAnodyneComments@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                  18 days ago

                  interesting context about the scottish guy

                  i was injured in peaceful activist efforts i took part in 2016-2022, wasn’t able to get real treatment in my region, tried to flee the country during Biden years, failed, now i am watching the thing i fled take shape while i try and get back on my feet with an old “war wound”

                  so i’m spent, i was in the movement that got abandoned 👍

                  the USA is doomed to a fascist imperial collapse and non-violent mass protest is not going to change that

          • frezik@midwest.social
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            18 days ago

            Is this based on a careful study of violent and non-violent protest movements under regiemes in many countries? Or did you pull it out of your ass?

            • VagueAnodyneComments@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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              18 days ago

              most of my knowledge base is WW1 stuff like Tuckman and the various anarcho-communist stuff you get into around Graeber and Occupy era guys, i did significant graduate study in english and spanish studying the history of Chile, then i participated in movements for about a decade

              so yeah completely out of my ass, fritz

  • theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world
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    18 days ago

    “Don’t protest authoritarianism or else they’ll be authoritarian!!!” mother fucker they ALREADY ARE! THAT’S WHY WE’RE PROTESTING

  • TheFogan@programming.dev
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    18 days ago

    It’s the double edged sword… bottom line, he gets us to protest, he’ll use it to declare martial law to get what he wants.

    If we dont protest, he’ll use our inaction as approval and continue pushing and throwing the law out the window so it doesn’t effect him and his power grows more anyway.

    There is no easy path to victory, his side has contingencies for most anything we can do… all we can do is do it stronger than they anticipate.

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    18 days ago

    If a bully calls you names, you can ignore him.

    If he starts punching you in the dick, you can still take the highroad.

    But when the bully is kidnapping people and sticking them in their basement and you never see them again…

    It stops mattering if they were looking for a fight.

    At some point a fight is the only way to stop the violence.

    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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      18 days ago

      If he starts punching you in the dick, you can still take the highroad.

      I’m sorry, what’s the high road here?

      At some point a fight is the only way to stop the violence.

      The brutal truth that too many liberals don’t want to accept is that we can’t Vote our way through this.

    • WeirdyBeansAt@lemmy.zip
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      18 days ago

      The brazen escalation since taking power shows that they are instigating. They are not just using rhetoric. They want to hypernormalize masked goons dragging people out of courthouses, out of legislative buildings. This is everything that alt right people claimed was happening (it wasn’t) and now are doing it themselves because if they don’t wield the one ring then their perceived enemies (their countrymen) will. They are deluded at best and malicious at worst.

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      18 days ago

      Personally, I don’t like being punched in the dick. But I understand there are people who do.

  • ExtantHuman@lemm.ee
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    18 days ago

    Shut up. “You’re giving him the excuse to do what he was going to do if you had done nothing” is a shitty argument to make.

  • AdamBomb@lemmy.sdf.org
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    18 days ago

    This sounds like when they used to tell women that if they’re attacked by a rapist, not to fight back because then the rapist might get mad and kill them.