The protest movement in the United States is growing, but so is the global authoritarian playbook it’s up against.
The idea being promoted here is that Americans can sit on the sidelines.
In-fact, if you look at recent history, the ONLY things that have stopped authoritarians is mass protest.
Yup. Same as all those fearmongering ‘YOU WANT A WAR WITH X?!?’ each time a post critical of X is raised.
There are more options too.
I also recommend this book.
Invasion and occupation by another country has a decent track record, too
Look if Canada wants to save us from ourselves no one will stop them
We’re too bitter about Florida winning the Stanley Cup twice.
The US armed forces might want to have a word about this tho
It’s more likely to go the other way. The US is 1930s Germany and Canada is Poland.
Operation 86
If we protest he’ll send in the troops so that he can have his goons grab people off the streets.
If we don’t pretty, he’ll have his goons grab people off the streets.
Seems like protesting puts an obstacle and the goons grabbing.
Protesting also prepares communities to escalate resistance when necessary
Oh nooo if we protest then he gets to declare martial law
And if we don’t protest then he declares martial law
Ohhhh noooooo
He will use any excuse, whether people protest or not. He will say it’s a rebellion if people just disagree with him politely.
The more people are willing to speak up and stand up, the less control he actually has. The more we cower in fear over what he might do when he’s going to do it anyway the more power we’re actually giving him.
What’s the trap? I read that thing and I still have no idea. We embarrassed tf out of trump on his birthday. He had to tease that he’s starting a war with Iran to make himself feel better about it.
This is a job he has that the republicans can fire him from at any point. Protesting is letting the republicans, who are never safe even if trump is, know that their jobs are also on the line.
you understand that war with Iran and the escalation of ICE raids in response to No Kings protests is significantly worse and in no way impeded by people marching with signs right?
embarrassing Trump is kayfabe to let the Volk blow off steam
they’re doing a fascist imperial war expansion whether people “peacefully protest” or not, so it is time for better tactics or removing oneself from the conflict so as not to be useful to fascists
Almost like non-violent protest movements are a marathon, not a sprint.
yes this is why they are ineffective against a regime that started a war yesterday and readied their deathcamps a month ago
you can’t instantly build a peaceful resistance movement after abandoning the one in 2020 and increasing funding for the violent police
USA’s shot at doing peaceful resistance is over, that’s not the shape of the problem anymore
Feel free to sit this out while real Americans save your ass.
fight me in real life, i’m in your DMs
I don’t beat up cripples
EDIT: he did indeed slide into my DMs proposing violence
They’re typically not Americans. Yesterday, one said he was Scottish and last week they wouldn’t fess up.
After taking a second look at his comments and some of the weird phrases he used in his DMs to me, that guy is 100% not an American
Yeah, I keep running into those guys too.
interesting context about the scottish guy
i was injured in peaceful activist efforts i took part in 2016-2022, wasn’t able to get real treatment in my region, tried to flee the country during Biden years, failed, now i am watching the thing i fled take shape while i try and get back on my feet with an old “war wound”
so i’m spent, i was in the movement that got abandoned 👍
the USA is doomed to a fascist imperial collapse and non-violent mass protest is not going to change that
Is this based on a careful study of violent and non-violent protest movements under regiemes in many countries? Or did you pull it out of your ass?
most of my knowledge base is WW1 stuff like Tuckman and the various anarcho-communist stuff you get into around Graeber and Occupy era guys, i did significant graduate study in english and spanish studying the history of Chile, then i participated in movements for about a decade
so yeah completely out of my ass, fritz
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Buy the ticket, take the ride
“Don’t protest authoritarianism or else they’ll be authoritarian!!!” mother fucker they ALREADY ARE! THAT’S WHY WE’RE PROTESTING
It’s the double edged sword… bottom line, he gets us to protest, he’ll use it to declare martial law to get what he wants.
If we dont protest, he’ll use our inaction as approval and continue pushing and throwing the law out the window so it doesn’t effect him and his power grows more anyway.
There is no easy path to victory, his side has contingencies for most anything we can do… all we can do is do it stronger than they anticipate.
If a bully calls you names, you can ignore him.
If he starts punching you in the dick, you can still take the highroad.
But when the bully is kidnapping people and sticking them in their basement and you never see them again…
It stops mattering if they were looking for a fight.
At some point a fight is the only way to stop the violence.
If he starts punching you in the dick, you can still take the highroad.
I’m sorry, what’s the high road here?
At some point a fight is the only way to stop the violence.
The brutal truth that too many liberals don’t want to accept is that we can’t Vote our way through this.
It’s as if there should probably be some short, somber, but eloquent poem about this very thing.
The brazen escalation since taking power shows that they are instigating. They are not just using rhetoric. They want to hypernormalize masked goons dragging people out of courthouses, out of legislative buildings. This is everything that alt right people claimed was happening (it wasn’t) and now are doing it themselves because if they don’t wield the one ring then their perceived enemies (their countrymen) will. They are deluded at best and malicious at worst.
Personally, I don’t like being punched in the dick. But I understand there are people who do.
Can’t make this shit up
Shut up. “You’re giving him the excuse to do what he was going to do if you had done nothing” is a shitty argument to make.
This sounds like when they used to tell women that if they’re attacked by a rapist, not to fight back because then the rapist might get mad and kill them.
He’s trying the “reverse psychology” method.
Go into a trap prepared, and let the coward fall when it backfires.
Trump and his whole lot must die.
