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    17 days ago

    He not only burnt his state down literally, but also now speaks to anti-LGBTQ+ pundits.

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    Geez, y’all go overboard with some of this stuff and it’s ridiculous. Newsom is not anti-trans, he’s not anti-LGBTQ+, and he’s not against any rights of any other marginalized communities as far his other statements and actions assert. He said he thought the sports issue was “deeply unfair”.

    Guess what? Lots of people do. I hate to use a meme phrase, but we DO live in a society that has to somehow represent all people where possible. We have to try and make as many people happy with what we have to work with.

    You can think that’s an unfair situation for BOTH SIDES and not be against either one. Cis women thinking it’s unfair to compete against newly transitioned women are bad now? Women are suddenly bad or wrong for speaking out on something they take issue with? What about them?

    Is Newsom on the wrong side of society for being an advocate in all other ways to the LGBTQ+ community but thinking this one thing isn’t fair to either side? No. That’s a stupid assertion.

    It’s a complicated issue that nobody seems to have a great idea on how to solve to make everyone happy as of yet, and we have bigger societal issues for Trans people that are more pressing than fucking sports. Like protecting their existence and making sure they aren’t further marginalized.

    Get a grip with this bullshit.

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      Then why you keep passin’ the hot mic to people talkin’ shit about trans athletes? Why amplify that voice on your government podcast? Thats literally Nazi shit. The Nazis made all this “traditional family” bullshit we are drowning in. So no, he shouldn’t be saying it and isolating the already vulnerable. Theres like 10 trans althetes in the fucken nation, leave them alone and fix the fucken markets.

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        Youre really leaning into my point. You’re going out of your way to equate random shit that has nothing to do with his actions or anything other things he’s done, but only that…he said the sports issue was deeply troubling. Nevermind the piece of shit he was talking to, which is way more troubling. Get mad that he was talking to Charlie Kirk of all people.

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        16 days ago

        Lol are you kidding??? Now he’s Benedict Arnold. My fucking God. It’s like it’s impossible to help yourself to be reasonable and understand not everyone will agree with your exact definition or view of everything, and STILL not be against that. Totally okay for you do that though…

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      16 days ago

      OK lol Bro shut the fuck up, you’ve already made so many wrong assumptions in this giant ass fucking wall of text, do you really just hearing yourself speak, do you mouth the words as you type?

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    You guys are mad at him but he is taking the same stance that the majority of people have on it.

    Whether or not he actually believes that stance only he would know, but I would suspect that like many other people who are now “flipping” on the trans athletes these people probably didn’t support them being in women’s sports, but felt compelled to say they did because of the backlash they were worried about getting.

    Now that people are noticing that the general public actually doesn’t want this they are either playing into to popular stance to take or they are just feeling safe to actually express their opinions on the matter authentically.

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      16 days ago

      Trans lives matter. The public opinion will shift as it has throughout history. Trans people aren’t going to go away.

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        Nobody said they didn’t matter?

        Not wanting trans women to compete against biological women in sports does not mean people want them to “go away”. It means they aren’t the same as biological women and people are tired of you guys pretending that they are.

        When you look people in the eyes and tell them that a biological man that now identifies as a woman can actually get pregnant (despite lacking the biological requirements to do so) you are asking them to ignore reality and science which most people simply aren’t willing to do.

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            No centrist cares. They have an excuse for breaking solidarity with a vulnerable minority.

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          Ozma has attached an article you really need to read about the myths. But also, why are you bringing up trans women being able to get pregnant? Is that what you define as a biological woman? Because there are plenty of cis women who aren’t able to get pregnant. No one is saying trans women can get pregnant, until we have womb transplants that is. But right now? No one says trans women can get pregnant. But we do say that after hormones the differences between cis women and trans women really isn’t a big difference besides born with equipment.

          Also your insistence with using “biological” instead of cis while still saying that you don’t think trans women should disappear really isn’t helping your case. Just use cis, what’s wrong with that? The term biological is being used by the right to invalidate trans women being women at all, cis is what they are. Just use that word.