• FlyingCircus@lemmy.world
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      4 days ago

      It’s wild that a mod can just decide what is misinformation based on whether they personally know who the author is or not.

      Just post your rebuttal as a comment. Objectively, you are hardly a more reliable source than the person who wrote this.

      You may “know what you’re talking about,” but how do I know that you know? Why should I believe that your opinion is more correct?

      • Snot Flickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        4 days ago

        Okay, well here are some facts that you can confirm with anyone else who has been involved in election administration that support my point:

        I’m quoting OP to make a point here, and that point is they gave you an opportunity to validate the evidence they were presenting and not just take their word for it.

        I have never worked in elections but have done enough research on elections to agree with the mod that these are indisputable facts. Elections are run at state and county levels and at each level you literally have security and cybersecurity teams that have to work with each other but were all hired by different groups: State, county, city. Due to this, processes will be different at each level and in each city/county/state. Similarly, each place will be sourcing their hardware from a different vendor, meaning it is highly implausible that somehow they all had the correct Tripp Lite devices in place in all the right districts and that the cybersecurity teams were either all grossly incompetent or somehow in on a grand conspiracy. Hell, I’ve had a government job for a short time, and even different agencies in the same government will be using different vendors than another agency. There is no overarching “you have to get your equipment from this specific vendor and no one else” more like “you can get your equipment from this large group of vendors who fit the specifications and requirements our city/county/state government has.”

        These are things you can research and verify. The mod isn’t just asking you to their their word on it, they provide evidence and give you the opportunity to go verify that evidence for yourself. To go ask the people who run your local elections and find out. Not just trust the musings of some random asshat on the internet. Also the whole “elections are run at the state level” thing should be pretty common knowledge because that’s basic civics.

    • Snot Flickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      I just came back to this thread because I wanted to say: thank you for this write up, you got a lot of details I neglected to mention. The most important of which is that elections are run at the state level and every state is going to have their own security and cybersecurity teams, and the assumptions made in this treat it like either every cybersecurity team in every state is grossly incompetent or the cybersecurity teams were somehow “in on it” and kept their mouths shut (not a skill most of the people in Trumps orbit seem to have) or that the Trump admin had been sitting on a massive zero-day exploit to be used at the right moment, through the right channels, with the right pieces of hardware installed in the right spots every place they needed them (once again, these people are not good about keeping quiet about such things). Which, to me, all three are so highly implausible it really makes no sense to make grand conspiracies on your own head about it all.

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      5 days ago

      Click the “more direct source” in the body of the post for a recent tie-in of how it fits in with Rockland county etc.

      • JuBe@lemmy.worldM
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        5 days ago

        I just updated my comment, to reflect another conversation about that Substack, and the short of it is: that Substack post is misinformation.

        I know it probably wasn’t your intent, but In the future though, please don’t use a “shell” article to post other content.