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    4 days ago

    We never have before, and the Democrats don’t campaign on it, so I highly doubt it.

    That’s just silly. Crazy wrong.

    . . .the last President to really move the country left was FDR. Biden did too, but he barely even tried to undo the previous Trump administration.

    So that contradicts your first statement.

    To be clear, Democrats are far better than Republicans for the left, but it’s not because we expect to get any of what we want from either.

    You’re ignoring the inherent contradiction by claiming what’s “wanted” was and is never supported. That’s not the case.

    Of course that’s a big, if interesting, if.

    Kinda like “if monkeys come flying out of my ass”. Even so, it’s hardly all that interesting. We still won’t understand how Trump won in 2016. We still won’t understand the rising tide of fascism in the US and the rest of the neoliberal world. We’ll be no closer to taking back Congress in 2026, or doing anything with our proof of election fraud without it.

    Hardly interesting to find that stuff out? Okay. I couldn’t disagree more. We know from a number of sources trump colluded with russia for things like money and intelligence, we know there were a lot of voter roll break-ins and so on. And we know the Cambridge Analytica piece. That’s a lot already - it’s not an impenetrable fortress of unknowable things.

    I’m not “interested” in expending time, resources, or political capital on a witch-hunt that even Kamala and Walz don’t find valuable.

    Fair enough then. IF anything happens you can read about it in the checkout line. And Kamala and Walz wouldn’t support this publicly but I have no doubt they’d find any uncovered truths valuable.