Furious Democrats are pushing “Squad” Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) to primary Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) after he agreed to vote with Republicans to avoid a government shutdown, according to reports.

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    19 days ago

    Fuck that…AOC and the rest of the progressives need to make their own party. The Ds are done.

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      19 days ago

      As long as the US uses a first-past-the-post system, third parties will not be viable. The only REAL way to go forward is to take over the Democratic party and push it left. We’ll see how it goes…

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        The US has always had two parties, but it hasn’t always had the same two parties. Creating a new party that’s successful is entirely possible, if doing so completely destroys one of the existing parties in the process.

        For example, the Whig Party emerged after the Federalist Party collapsed, and the Republican Party emerged after the Whig Party collapsed.

        See also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_parties_in_the_United_States

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        As long as the US uses a first-past-the-post system, third parties will not be viable.

        Democrats don’t have to field candidates if they’re so damned scared about splitting the vote. It’s not like they’re particularly interested in winning anyway.

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      MAGA took over the Republican Party for a reason if the progressives were able to organize their way out of a paper bag they could do it themselves.

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        18 days ago

        if the progressives were able to organize their way out of a paper bag

        Well, join them.

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    I’ve never felt more defeated electorally than by the current crop of Democrats.

    Losing to Hillary in the '16 primaries was rough, but it wasn’t even close to enough to get me or almost anyone to drop out of politics. At least the 2020 ratfucking gave us the platform. Losing to Trump, now twice, also pretty rough.

    But what Schumer and Jefferies are doing now, its more defeating than anything before. Its not just a weak resistance, or a paper or performative resistance: its anti-resistance. What Schumer and Jefferies have done, through their insescent weakness, will be long term more damaging to the party than anything that Kamala or Biden did or didn’t do, in-spite of their own obvious and utter failings.

    News flash: The Democrats are throwing the mid-terms. Now. Right fucking now and right in front of you. The blew the fucking election, and now they are putting in double time to blow the next one.

    And you have 0 control or leverage to be able to stop them because they don’t want you in their party. They don’t want to share power with brown people. They don’t want to share power with queer people. They don’t want to share power with immigrants or atheists or scientists or anyone who isn’t an ivy league, beltway insider. They will not be giving over the reigns to the party, no matter how pretty-please with sprinkles on top you ask them. They don’t want to share power with the tent-poles of the big tent party. You are a consumable resource to them. They’re going to throw you and the entire Democratic project under the bus to preserve their posture in a kabuki power game with themselves.

    There is no path to salvation through the Democratic party. To quote Carlin: Its a BIG club, and you ain’t in it.

    There is no path to resistance through the Democratic party. The way things have been done in the past hasn’t worked. You don’t have decades to find your footing and figure out how to stop this.

    You have days, weeks.

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      Fuck giving up or defeatism though. Lifetime Opposition just because of spite is the way for me.

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    18 days ago

    AOC won surprisingly at her first foray into politics when she was up against an established monied opponent. If she primaries against Schumer, she might just be able pull it off again. Remember that even some MAGA appreciates her anti-oligarchy run, which in turn makes her look authentic for the masses. The look for authenticity in a politician is what many affluent people-- both liberals and conservatives alike-- do not understand of the Trump phenomenon, or even the popularity of Sanders, Walz and AOC.

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      Not necessarily. Sinema did her bullshit impression of McCain at the very beginning of her term. She was toast from that moment on, AZ dems froze her out and started working to replace her from that moment on.

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      That’s still 4 years away. Next year or even 2 years? Performative. But a whole 4 years is a good chunk of time to maybe put a spine back into Dem leadership.

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        Sounds like she should start campaigning now. It’s not like Schumer’s gonna grow a spine between now and then, so AOC will just acquire more to run against.

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    18 days ago

    Could you lot not just make her president (if you’re lucky enough to have another election)? I mean if a whole bunch of people registered as democrats for the sole purpose of making her the official candidate?

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    17 days ago

    AOC can cry all she wants… she still gets paid if the government shuts down.

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      Get fetterman’s talking points out now while you can. If this bill goes through (which it likely will thanks to Chuck) even more jobs will be cut permanently instead of a temporary loss of pay.