In Republican’s fever dream scenario, they’d consider splitting the nation up to be marooning 200 million people stranded to die standing room only on a military embargoed Puerto Rico. They’d call that perfectly fair and not mass murder.

Get your logic out of here as to why that isn’t possible.

I’d still go. I’d find it macabre and funny, it wouldn’t make me anxious. Private plane!

Humans like to believe a lot of stupid stuff without evidence, and feel like it becomes more true the more other people believe in the same stupid stuff.

Why would non Israeli Jews have to denounce the Israeli genocide of the Palestinians?

The conductor was Israeli.

Liberals for the lasf 50 years: “we just need to concede to our esteemed opposition to the right HARDER. Then they’ll be our friends and we can be a society!”

I’ll vote blue out of harm reduction, not out of hope.

IF there’s another real election, and IF the Neoliberals win, they’ll do NOTHING to reign in the capitalists that fund the fascists because they’re bribed to protect the “free market,” just as the Fascists are.

All them winning in 2028 might do is buy a little time before the Fascists are on the march the following sided. That’s why it’s ignorant when people claim the only reason we’re collapsing is Trump. Reagan set the table for fascism and every president since has furthered that outcome. Whether this happened in 2020,2024, 2028, this was happening.

So vote for the Neoliberals all you want. I do it out of the starfish parable, to one delayed fascist action, it matters, but we’re still in a capitalist fascist hell, and until we have something to vote or riot for that will bring the capital markets to cinder, nothing can improve. You should feel like throwing up after voting here.

Republican Fascists are the Neoliberals “esteemed opposition.”

The few leftists with power are spoiler candidates, because both parties only promote candidates on the basis of their ability to get bribe checks, and are the Neoliberals enemies.

If you want to see the Democrat party treat a President as a threat to the nation that must be resisted at every turn, just elect President AOC. They’re in a power sharing agreement with the Republicans.

Not like we have a left with any power to stop them.

Im sure the fascist light(D) party will have very furrowed brows though.

Oh so furrowed.

Until you choose to become a centimillionaire, then it’s open season.

that one liberal

As a democratic socialist I think I am more annoyed by neolibs than the Fascists. I wish the Fascists were gone more, but the neolibs found a way to be more insufferable.

Fascists largely seem to know they’re selfish, hateful pricks and take a perverse pride in it. Note the shit eating grins and lazy circular arguments meant to provoke more than defend.

Liberals want to have their cake and eat it too. They have no problem with mass homelessness so long as it’s not in their backyard, and they like record profits even when it involves legal murder of customers, but they blow a microchip when informed that means they work against society and are also selfish fucks who want there to be winners and losers instead of everyone having full bellies. You cant be for mass homelessness, for basic needs not being met by some while others have too much and be a decent person.

At least the Devil is the Devil and not perpetually trying to find the new middle ground of greed and power and asking to be called a good boy or girl for it. I prefer sociopaths that announce themselves.

I mean, his voters will believe it.

They’d jump off the empire state building if the Administration told them it would pwn the libs.

I voted for Harris, just as I voted for neoliberal fascist light my entire life out of race to the bottom harm reduction. I’m 40 and have had no non-capitalist filth to vote For in a general, yes I primary, my entire life. Unchecked capitalism always leads to fascism.

Don’t pretend that the tide of fascism hasn’t been rising since Reagan with Democrats. Democrats take the same marching orders on the economy and have no problem with mass homelessness and industries like “Healthcare” killing their marks for sport. Democrats just shrug and call it market forces instead of pointing and laughing at you, which is better, hence why I vote for them.

You should MOURN every vote for them as I do though. Whether this happened in 2020,2024,or 2028, this was happening. The table was set and the Fascist’s “opposition” have done nothing but enable them and become more like them for half a century. Note how their fighting against this tide with furrowed brows and doubling down on hating leftists who have never had a shred of power in this country but are still somehow the big enemies as their esteemed opposition build concentration camps, lol it’s pathetic.

Next cycle the Overton window will have Democrats calling for more humane concentration camps in their march rightward into meeting the Fascists in the new middle. I guarantee it. After all, just as with our regular prison INDUSTRY, there’s profit to be made in such projects, and those profiteers will be happy to bribe both parties as usual.

Even IF there’s another real election, and even IF the neoliberals win, they’ll do NOTHING to reign in our robber baron profiteers the world and our society, which will leave the table set for the Fascists to continue their work in another 4.

But hey at least we’ll burn not being socialists, amirite?

It’s wealthy people who think rules and laws are for their little peasant capital batteries.

The wealthy elite have always been largely pedophilic. Didn’t start and certainly didn’t stop with Epstein as just one of their facilitators.

Don’t like it? At least be and vote against capitalism and rampant economic inequity. Otherwise 78 choices of cereal are more important to you than children not being raped by rich people.

They’re bored, have infinite resources, and by the nature of their insatiable greed and sociopathic treatment of those they exploit feel the need to test their limits and taste that most consider forbidden.

Society should check, temper, and commit such people for everyone’s safety, instead they own the government, and freely fuck kids and teens when they aren’t being infused with their blood to try to live longer. Enjoy their “free market.” at least we aren’t socialists amirite?

Honestly the Epstein stuff is a destraction too. The wealthy elites are largely pedophiles, always have been. Trump is among the most gluttonous, but that doesn’t make him unique among them. Don’t like it? Be against capitalist excess and for equity. Until then… we’re building concentration camps.

Both sides are varying degrees of the same ideology, give all the money to the economic elite so they bribe both parties into maintaining that policy above all other considerations.

One side shrugs and calls it free market forces(D) as you suffer under that policy goal, the other points and laughs at you and says you deserve it®. That is the extent of our “freedom” under American democracy.

Another neoliberal.

I agree, but I don’t think there’ll be another real election here for a long time if ever, and I’d rather vote for her than another hypercapitalist enslaver with pride ribbons(D) to stop hypercapitalist enslaver with scapegoats® yet again as I’ve done my entire life in our descent to oblivion. There’s not really rational hope either way. The capitalists won and have us by the balls in every way, including tens of millions of deluded minds that have learned to love and defend the Massas and their “free market” directly against their own interests.

Climate change is going to end planetary scale civilization in 50 years max, probably 20-30. It’s blowing past all projections because we were conservative and both couldn’t and didn’t want to consider the runaway effects. I honestly think Kamala was my last pragmatic funeral dirge vote. Give me something to vote for and I’ll show up. I haven’t had a federal level candidate to vote for in a general in my entire life though. I doubt AOC will become the first after the DNC uses every lever to end any primary run.

Also because both of our major party machines would cooperate in attacking her.

Neoliberals would rather lose power than signal to their bribers that their party isn’t bought and paid for. President Ocasio-Cortez would be such a signal.

The DNC promotes on the basis of potential federal level reps getting bribe money. AOC was a spoiler and is not welcome in the party because of her views. That’s why the Neoliberals in congress don’t care Trump is in office and even help him with appointments.

Neoliberals like Pelosi would lock arms with the Fascists and treat a President AOC like the threat we wished they’d treat their fascist opposition like, but they have too much in common on the same Economic policy they’re both well bribed to enact and protect from us.

Which is why, all the more, AOC is a good choice. The hatred of our true oppressors on Wall Street is welcome. At worst, it will further demonstrate that the American people aren’t permitted by big corpo to have a real choice in governance, only hypercapitalist robber baron enablers paid to divide us on social wedges as they legislate new ways for the owners to monetize sucking us dry.

Neoliberals are still openly hostile towards her.

Queen Neoliberal Pelosi spent more time in the lameduck period undermining AOC’s committee appointment than Trump’s Presidency.

That’s good enough for me as a leftist knowing the context that she really is about as left wing as our pathetic, deluded, propagandized, under or miseducated populace could ever elect as we are.

I don’t have any hope anymore, this nation died with Reagan and it’s just a slow falling corpse as far as I’m concerned, but for anyone looking to cling to at least borderline rational hope, someone in her position is your best bet, because she’s a known name, that matters in our shitty celebrity obsessed culture, she proves every day that a leftist can be professional and govern, that matters because leftists are painted as anarchist boogiemen without a plan in most American news media, and she’s photogenic and naturally charasmatic, which shouldn’t matter but sadly does.

There isn’t an individual to the left of her that I can think of that could conceivably get elected President in this cesspool of willful ignorance and systemically stoked division of the poors, can you? Even her becoming President would be a moonshot. That isn’t a knock on her, she’s one of about 4 members of congress (or executives in the fortune 1000) I’d give a glass of water to if they were dying of thirst, that’s a knock on our gold plated shithole and people, not her. She’s a diamond in the rough.

I wish the office came with a mandate that they’d personally have to field constituent calls 4 hours a week.

But like so much else, they aren’t going to legislate accountability for themselves.

I can be bribed into supporting that with king crab and salmon.