What I saw a lot of on Lemmy was democrat supporters and voters insisting that people will just hold their nose and vote for Harris and accusing anybody angry about the ongoing genocide of either supporting Trump or playing into the hands of Russia.

Any statement posted on Lemmy is directed at the voters, not the leadership, and assuming otherwise is arguing in bad faith.

Did I do that? Very confused.

The voters had the opportunity to stop Trump. They didn’t.

Ah yes, it’s all the voters’ fault.

If only the DNC had any power at all in this situation or ability to influence the actions of voters…

Okay, so I would be equally justified in saying: Liberals, this is what you get when you assume people must vote for you.

THANK YOU. This far down the road and they’re still ignoring this aspect.

Yes protest voters choosing to make things worse for Palestine and everyone in the US is stupid.

AND liberals and especially the party leadership made a huge miscalculation in assuming everyone would vote for “not Trump.”

Both contributed to the loss. Which is more to blame? There’s a discussion to be had there but imo the overall electoral strategy is a much bigger issue than a handful of stupid people who didn’t vote or voted Trump over this one particular issue

It’s really funny how all this denial is focused on the existence of a concrete “list.” What everybody means, and what anyone honest knows, is that the request is for the release of a list of the people who went to the Epstein island and were associated with the convicted child sex trafficker Ghislaine Maxwell and Epstein himself.

If you can convict Maxwell, there is evidence of what happened. Whether or not someone has already written a list is completely irrelevant.

There are exactly two types of people who would deny this:

1. Die hard, believe-anything-Trump-is-saying-today, MAGA faithful
2. paedophiles or people otherwise on the list

I wonder which one Stephen King is…