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    The arrival of 2,500 Marines and another 2,500 sailors is keeping the number of American troops in the Mideast region at over 50,000 — roughly 10,000 more than usual

    The U.S.-led coalition that invaded Iraq in 2003 was close to 250,000 at the beginning.

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    They are going to invade Iran, and play up every single death as a way to blame the Dems and every citizen for not supporting Trump. Now its a real war and “oopsie doopsie no can do elections”

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      This is an important insight. People who support war generally harden their stance once their soldiers begin to fall. It also becomes much easier to guilt and shame others for not supporting the war, framing it as having let those soldiers die in vain. It’s an important instrument in the fascist/imperialist toolkit for stamping out dissent.

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      And the progressives on here are going to blame democrats for not having more votes to stop this guy and say we need to vote 3rd part to keep his power unchecked.

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        lol who hurt you?

        Progressives are pushing to change local voting systems from FPTP to RCV or Score/Approval/other so that Americans aren’t forced into a vote for the least bad candidate situation. Progressives are pushing progressive primary candidates to pull the whole party to the left, but in the primary voting D.

        In the meantime in this current system, always Democrats unless they’re going to win easily, then you can vote your conscience.

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            i just dismiss those as trolls trying to wind me up (usually quite successfully, i exist in a state of NEEDS MORE COFFEE). when i was young and stupid and immature (and i had hair!), like in high school my conservative friends and i jokingly campaigned for the green party. we didn’t actually campaign, we just had some buttons on our backpacks. we were too young to vote and all. so like, now those high school trolls are online and they used to be me and know how to push my metaphorical buttons. but i used to be them (and tried to grow out of it, and hope i did) so i kind of understand them a little? does that make sense?

            edit: that came out of my mind of course it doesn’t make sense

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        The democrats are as compromised by israel as the republicans are. Keep your eye on the ball.

        on Israel’s behalf, Biden ran the US government on the largest part of the genocide and then starvation of innocent Palestinians and leveling of their cities. Those mass murders and ethnic cleansings were done with American funding and diplomatic support. Those are just facts. They arent up for debate.

        So get off your ridiculous high horse and stand down in the mud with the rest of us. You’re filthy.

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          You’re filthy.

          😆

          Anyway, democrats overall, yes. Unlike republicans, though, there are democrats that are doing the right thing. And those will not succeed so long as republicans keep winning.

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    Setting the stage for nuking Iran, because a ‘conventional war’ can’t be won?
    Can we please turn back time some thirty years?

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    Just jumping in here before the bags start shipping back to say fuck every single one of these service people. All of them chose to go. All of them chose to serve this lying, fascist government and do the bidding of their corporate patrons. All of them signed up to bomb children. All of them deserve the consequences. Have fun shitting in a bag the rest of your life assholes.

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      Most of them are probably 18 years old, poorly educated, and raised on Fox News. They’re just pawns that have no idea what’s going on.

      Congress on the other hand, knows exactly what they’re doing, and has no moral qualms.

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        You’re right, but the 18 year olds are probably educated on Assmeinkampfmongold and that is even worse.

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        And that was the high point for many, as they’d end up addicted and living on the streets shortly thereafter.

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        Absolutely blame governments. But that doesn’t absolve soldiers from responsibility in a volunteer force. Absolutely blame soldiers for their own misdeeds.

        This notion that our service people are somehow these fragile, perfect little angels that deserve nothing but effusive worship is nonsense, and part of how the government enforces its awful, self-serving corruption.

        Fuck the soldiers, every single one of them. They signed up to do evil, they deserve to suffer the consequences. Can’t wait to ridicule them when a few of them get back.

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    Time to put the American soldiers’s sacrifices on israel’s altar to their violent genocidal god. Sorry to the soldiers and their families.