• DarkFuture@lemmy.world
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    The fact that killing Roe v Wade didn’t drive every woman in this nation to CRUSH Republicans in this last election shows that we are in a downward spiral with no end in sight.

    Imagine someone taking a human right from you and then you continue to support them to take more rights away from you.

    Yeah. We’re fucked.

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      Plenty of women are just as happy removing their own rights as men are because of religious nonsense.

      Also add in “that leopard would never eat my face!” too for good measure.

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        “Everyone wanted it left up to the states!” was a female coworker’s favorite line after Roe was overturned. No, Republicans just wanted it left up to the states to pave the way for a national ban. This was coming from a woman that has previously had at least one abortion and is proudly child free.

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          “The number of rights you have as a citizen of this country depend solely on which arbitrary lines you happen to be between at this immediate moment” is such a fucking brain dead take, it’s not surprising that Republicans love it.

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          I can’t wait to see the mental gymnastics they spin a national ban when weed is now legal in some form without loopholes in over half the states.

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      The election was completely compromised and so are all the numbers. Watching our country eat each other alive when we literally did NOT vote for this is the craziest experience of my life.

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        I have this worry as well. Bullet ballots are my main concern, I think that could have been the play this time around. You got other evidence?

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      Fox News literally got up on air and told women maybe they shouldn’t be voting since they leaned toward Biden last time and that was such a “disaster” compared to whatever the fuck this nightmare is.

      Then they told a female host “good job you get a cookie now” or some shit when they suggested we should execute people for daring to defy Trump.

      Made me sick to my stomach.

      But of course, zero repercussions, zero pushback.

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      This article mentions that they are trying to disenfranchise people with the citizenship proof requirements, and it also mentions that they specifically want to disenfranchise women, but it doesn’t draw a connection between the two. In order for those to be connected, women would have to have more difficulty in producing that proof than men (which may be the case, but the article doesn’t show that).

      To actually answer your question, though, at least from the conservative women I’ve talked to, they are fine with that. The conservative women I know are weak, and they essentially want to give up responsibility in exchange for freedoms. They actually want women to be second class citizens because it means that they don’t have to worry about anything (but they do have to just do what they are told).

      There are old, conservative women who spent their lives as housewives who feel threatened by working women, so they want to maintain/go back to the status quo of women staying in the home (ignoring the fact that working class women have always worked). On the other hand, there are young, conservative women who do work, who yearn for the pretend vision of white, upper-middle class 1950s, where they get to just stay home and do what they want all day.

      TL; DR: They essentially want to be like children, worry-free in exchange for less freedom.

      P.s., there are definitely plenty of conservative women too stupid or unwilling to admit to themselves that the conservative position is women as second class citizens, but I wanted to respond with the perspective I’ve heard from people who seemed to be more honest.

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        In order for those to be connected, women would have to have more difficulty in producing that proof than men (which may be the case, but the article doesn’t show that).

        Just for clarification, this part has been answered in other articles discussing this subject. Married women would have a tougher time meeting proof-of-citizenship requirements if they took their husbands’ name (which happens 99.9% of the time) because their birth certificate would still have their maiden name. Since the voting rolls contain their married name and not their maiden name, the names wouldn’t match which would be grounds for removal from rolls. This would be made worse for those women who were married recently, as it’s more likely that even more documentation such as a drivers’ license would also still contain their maiden name and would therefore not be considered acceptable proof.

        Women would have to provide additional documentation (such as a marriage license), but it’s expected that this alone would cause some women to consider it not worth the hassle and therefore not bother voting.

        P.s., there are definitely plenty of conservative women too stupid or unwilling to admit to themselves that the conservative position is women as second class citizens, but I wanted to respond with the perspective I’ve heard from people who seemed to be more honest.

        Sadly, there are women who openly embrace this line of thinking. Particularly those who were raised in ultra-religious households where women being subservient to men in all matters is the norm, and have no problems forcing those views on the secular women that they view as “whores”. Mostly, it’s a subconscious way of lashing out against the fact that they themselves have been oppressed for their whole lives and therefore feel better being the oppressor instead of the oppressed. But they are out there.

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          Married women would have a tougher time meeting proof-of-citizenship requirements if they took their husbands’ name

          Yeah, that all definitely sounds reasonable to me. It’s just weird that if that’s the point the article was trying to make, they should have supported it a bit.