Let’s go TACO, let’s go!!!
Update: Yes, the Dems have been pretty much useless but they can’t do anything when they have no majority in either the House or Senate and Don TACO is ruling by EOs.
But this is how you get him and them. Fuck the high road, hit them at their level. Call them names like weirdos and TACO. If anything induce strokes in all of them.
Alt text: the withered raisin-looking "wojak’ man looking depressed, with “fight trump plz” above him in a serif font.
Action for action’s sake, huh? The left, in wanting us to do literally anything, are basically the same as the fascists, and just keep proving it over and over.
Really we should be reaching across the aisle for allies to fight them, nevermind all that stuff i just said about taking literally any action ever being fascist.
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They go high, we go taco.
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Tacos are delicious, though. 🌮
Hey it’s bread AND a circus how fun!
What policy are the national Democrats intended to be doing with their swanky majorities of -8 in the House of Representatives and -5 in the Senate?
This is part of what the opposition is supposed to do. They criticise, make fun of, offer legislative resistance to, and draw attention to the bad policies of the government.
The story how they got to be a minority is an epic story of mismanagement, corruption and insanity that stretches over many decades.
There is nothing wrong with free tacos, but it’s like polishing a mountain high turd
Did you not watch middle aged Korean politicians scaling fences and grabbing stormtroopers’ guns in the streets?
Why do you demand so little of your elected officials?
I’m not sure exactly what, but it should be something closer to what many brave Americans did in San Diego and Minneapolis recently. Giving out free tacos is better than nothing I guess, but it’s not the level of effort their responsibilities require in the moment.
What happened in San Diego and Minneapolis?
Protestors surrounded gestapo goon squads to make everything more difficult for them, while shouting “SHAME” and “GET THE FUCK OUT”
They can stop 6-8 of their own members from voting in favor of fascism.
They can make tangible changes in reality instead of lip service.
They can form a coalition and physically restrict access to the senate floor so nothing else can pass.
They can do a lot better if they weren’t complicit cowards
What are some examples of non-lip-service changes to national policy that the Democratic Party could be making right now?
It’s almost like there’s an agenda on Lemmy to sabotage the next election.
Why are you strawmanning his argument? The point is about all the things other than “changes to national policy” the Democrats can do, including obstructing negative changes to it.
Hey learn to read and i might reply in good faith
Learn to read
What policy are the national Democrats intended to be doing with their swanky majorities of -8 in the House of Representatives and -5 in the Senate?
Some lawmakers acknowledge that the filibuster, which has effectively set a 60-vote supermajority requirement for passing legislation in the Senate, could doom many of the proposals they have championed
Like the Republicans wouldn’t just get rid of the filibuster the first time it’s used against a major Republican policy objective
That’s been the excuse since 2005, when Bill Frist dangled “Nuclear Option” over the judiciary committee and Democrats fell over one another confirming Bush judges as a result.
Thankfully, the liberals aren’t living to regret any of that.
Fucking good, make them do it
Por que no los dos?
Considering how ineffective they are at negotiating passage of bills, approval of incompetent political appointees, etc, this is pretty hypocritical. I’m amused, but it is not like they’ve suddenly grown a spine themselves.
Thank god Dacos arent an immensely popular food item
And everyone hates THAC0s
I hate absolutely everything about this.
I’ve never been a fan of calling Trump nicknames or going low, not because I’m trying to uphold any sort of highroad Liberal ideology but because I personally find it crass and he’s an abominable human being with thousands of legitimate offenses to point to. If you do it on your own time to blow off steam, whatever, I’m not gonna get on your case. But I need more from our politicians.
What’s the message here? I get that it’s generally to agitate him, but are you trying to goad him into not chickening out? Just fucking do it, bro. There are thousands of Americans with food insecurity right now and you’re gonna give Republicans tacos?! Again, I get that it’s not really comparable and those issues are on different levels, but it still maintains that glossy respectability where you can’t really levy any criticism against it because they’re just giving away tacos. There’s no real message here at all.
And lastly, nobody is even standing up to put their name on this. The DNC is doing this? Who? Whose idea? We have so many Republicans at every level chomping at the bit to get themselves in front of any camera they can to spread their repugnant message and we can’t even get one Democrat to stand up and put their name on this meager messaging. Fucking cowards, the lot of them.
I expected nothing and I’m still disappointed.
They have nothing to offer. Tacos is an easy press win. Keeps their names in the headlines and attracts what they see as favorable attention.
The goal is status quo, but that’s hard to sell. So, tacos
And these tacos don’t raise minimum wage to a livable wage, tacked to COL adjustment, universal health care, safe infrastructure, leisure time, she, livable housing, safe public transportation, green energy, clean food, soil, air, water, fully funded, world-class education. And they probably add to the myriad health effects of garbage food.
But that would mean they would actually have to work, rather than perform their part of the Grand Political Mummery to convince you they are actually different than The Other Guys.
NoBoDy WaNtS tO WoRk AnYmOrE Dems can resume saying that when they fix these issues and do get to work on constituents’ behalf.
And while they’re at it, codify Roe and cap C-suite salaries.
Eta: and codify lgbtqia/race protection. this absolutely will happen when they fear the public more than they fear the ultrawealthy.
I’m sorry, but the Princess is in another castle! Time to head to the new world, Super Mario Brothers.
blatant bribery. now lets see how my memecoin is doing.
fucking pathetic
Good strategy. IIRC, this is how German citizens stopped the rise of Hitler.
Honestly, satire is pretty effective. Hitler was obsessed with projecting power, and humor especially the kind many Jewish people used to survive the camps was a powerful tool for undermining that illusion. Humour takes power away from a thing. It’s why it’s great against powerful entities but feels evil when used against the weak. If more people had mocked him early on, the myth of a strong, untouchable leader might never have taken root.
It’s always baffling when a leftist jumps in to argue that pointing this out is somehow pointless or juvenile. Maybe it’s a lack of social intuition, or just a failure to grasp the bigger picture but too often, the left underestimates the power of cultural resistance. Ridicule, art, memes, jokes these are tools that shape perception and cut authoritarianism down to size.
And these politicians you roll your eyes at? They’re not doing it for themselves. They’re calling out people like you, trying to shake you awake, trying to keep the pressure on. But instead of joining in, too many of you just sit back, waiting for someone else to fix it all.
Leftists are always against any actual action taken to oppose the right.
Castro
Famously yes, every time fascism has been defeated or delayed, it was because good steadfast liberals made tacos about it.
It’s why the fascists won the spanish civil war; not enough liberals, and the damn anarchists were so anti imperial they thought appropriating cuisine from their former colony was bad. Fucking wokeness ends with fascist victory every time!
That’s why the woke must be exterminated! In camps!
You sure you didn’t mean to say liberals instead of leftists?
Maybe it’s a lack of social intuition, or just a failure to grasp the bigger picture but too often, the left underestimates the power of cultural resistance. Ridicule, art, memes, jokes these are tools that shape perception and cut authoritarianism down to size.
And these politicians you roll your eyes at? They’re not doing it for themselves. They’re calling out people like you, trying to shake you awake, trying to keep the pressure on. But instead of joining in, too many of you just sit back, waiting for someone else to fix it all.
This is beautiful, thank you.
What is there to join? They’re not doing anything.
Maybe it’s a lack of social intuition, or just a failure to grasp the bigger picture but too often, the left underestimates the power of cultural resistance. Ridicule, art, memes, jokes these are tools that shape perception and cut authoritarianism down to size.
The right certainly uses this tactic against the left. Look at all their cringe viral memes, online propaganda targeting generation z/α, & trashy displays on their cars & clothing.
It’s like saying, look at the other team playing to the crowd, getting people excited and generally captivating audiences. Don’t they know they’re supposed to use logic and reason.
Our desire to shit on them has only alienated us from what works to win politically. That divide is growing.
It’s effective if it’s combined with action. If democrats are, say, voting in enough numbers to help pass his spending bill, then this already overplayed tease is meaningless. Democrats don’t even try to obstruct. The least they could do is make witty satire instead latching onto anything with a hint of virality, beating it to death, and then beating the corpse.
do something! Anything!
Oh, fetishizing action for action’s sake? Can i ask what kind of people are known for that?
If we take literally any action, we’re no better than the fascists.
don’t even try to obstruct
Which thing do you want? Action or obstruction? Make up your mind!
I want action to advance progressive causes and obstruction to block fascist actions. What you’re describing with “do something! Anything!” and “action for action’s sake” actually apply to publicity stunts like this free taco event.
advance progressive causes
Sorry but thats action i couornt possibly want for any reason, so just action for actions sake. Thats fascist. Youre asking for fascism.
obstruct them!
Oh, so do exactly what they’ve been doing for the past few decades? And, again; action for actions sake! You just cant not be fascist, can you?
actually free tacos are empty aesthetics that wear the mask of opposition while deftly avoiding any real criticism of their opponent’s behavior, which they wish to emulate at the nearest opportunity. How the fuck is that not fascist? What the fuck is wrong with you?
But what if they just really wanted tacos? I feel like most people want tacos most of the time, and that’s a pretty good reason to order tacos. So its not fascist because i wanted to do it.
I guess it’s like fucking. This is foreplay. It’s important. Don’t try to rush things. Don’t just rush in, fart on them a bit.
Don’t over think the power of just teasing these fucking clowns. You’re not going to get action anytime soon. Do what you can.
Democrats have been doing “foreplay” for years. Trump is not a new entity on the political scene, we’ve already lived through a Trump presidency, then after all the noise (or “foreplay” as you put it) that democrats made about how criminal he is, they did absolutely nothing to pursue prosecution during or after his term. They’ve had years to do something meaningful and they’ve done nothing. This lame stunt will lead to nothing. Foreplay is supposed to be interesting/exciting and generally leads to something more. There is never anything more to democrats, they just make noise and beg for donations while things only continue getting worse.
Most people don‘t know this, but the reason Steiner’s attack failed was because he had been to Taco Bell the day before and got the poopenfarten so massively it made his troops slip on the waste flowing from the toilets.
I get where you’re coming from, but are you actively attacking the government right now? Or just bitching about how other people aren’t doing enough?
Yeah, how dare he expect the Democratic National Committee to do something meaningful.
What exactly can they do currently?
Maybe, like, one pro-worker policy? And maybe, like, one anti-genocide policy? That would win over a lot of people.
So you want them to do what will boil down to performative things, that will have absolutely no effect on anything?
You’re talking out of both sides of your mouth here. You want them to do something non performative… like performative things?
The point is they can’t even do performative politics because they are so uselessly bought and sold. It’s pathetic, really.
<.< The original commenter was (essentially) complaining that they were only doing something performative.
Have a list of promises to get people to elect you and an acknowledgement that you should have done it last time you were in power. If I saw them connecting not doing what people who voted in 2020, and not even stopping the Republicans to their 2024 performance, I might have have some faith. But no, all they can do is blame messaging and voters.
What they are doing right now is performative things that will have absolutely no effect on anything. They’re already doing it, and you’re defending it.
They’ve had all their power removed through a vote. They now can
- make noise
- wait for an opportunity to get the ability to do a-ny-thing else.
That’s it. Right now they’re doing both.
This is what always annoys me about ppl going " wHy ArEnT dEmS DoInG MoRe?!?" They are but it has to be as non-violent as possible until they can flip seats and take back the house. We are dealing with an ego maniac who wants ANY reason to pass martial law. What do they expect dems to do? Start shooting ppl? Or storm the capital? They aren’t taking that bait, so Republicans can go “SeE?! bOtH sIDes…blah blah blah” 😑 There will be a time after tRump and he will go down in history as the dumb ass, rapist, fascist he is.
How about start by voting down all of Trump’s cabinet members and every Republican bill when they had the chance instead of constantly trying to meet halfway with fascists? How about Democratic judges deputising people to act as enforcement for the judicial branch when the Republicans keep ignoring court orders? How about playing all of the Republican’s dirty games to get policy through? How about refusing to take any corporate or billionaire money and run primaries against anyone who does?
On this we agree, if one half isn’t playing by the rules anymore why should the other? These are the proper means to get shit done that don’t involve violence.
I get where you’re coming from, but are you actively attacking the government right now?
I think those who are part of the government have a greater chance of effecting change.
Moreover, I live in a red state (currently), and although our TST congregation is small, we do quite a bit.
Or just bitching about how other people aren’t doing enough?
Why not both?
In before…
In this thread there’s a bunch of leftists who voted to make the democrats powerless wondering what they’re powerless.
How’s that progressive party coming along?
Almost ready for the 2026 midterms?
Non-voting democrats were further to the right. https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/democratic-nonvoters-policy-preferences/
You can probably drop this trope now that there’s plenty of data showing that. It was largely moderate, working class Democrats who didn’t vote, not online leftists.
Does that mean the democrats are doing the right thing by moving the party right but they didn’t take it far enough?
No, when asked about specific policies the majority of people still support progressive policies. How the poll questions are worded are incredibly important to how people respond
Not to mention the morality side of it
Progressive policies that a majority of Americans support
Here Are 34 Polls That Show A Ceasefire & Weapons Embargo Help Kamala Win
Kamala Would Have Won With A Weapons Embargo
Democrats’ Working-Class Failures, Analysis Finds, Are ‘Why Trump Beat Harris’
2024 Post-Election Report: A retrospective and longitudinal data analysis on why Trump beat Harris
How Trump and Harris Voters See America’s Role in the World
Majority of Americans support progressive policies such as higher minimum wage, free college
Democrats should run on the popular progressive ideas, but not the unpopular ones
Here Are 7 ‘Left Wing’ Ideas (Almost) All Americans Can Get Behind
Finding common ground: 109 national policy proposals with bipartisan support
Progressive Policies Are Popular Policies
Tim Walz’s Progressive Policies Popular With Republicans in Swing States
So why did the progressives vote but the moderates didn’t?
Seems like the democrats need to move right to capture them.
That’s addressed in detail in the 3rd and 4th link
But data proving them wrong is a russian bot psyop, or something.
I’m an anarchist and anti-electoralist and I still voted for the cop. Blame the democratic party and ignorant libs for the fat Ls we’re all taking. Leftists aren’t a big enough voting bloc to sway the election, and most of us still vote no matter how stupid and pointless it is.
This is genuinely not true. Same goes for 2016. Non-voting democrats tend to skew conservative. You’re just trying to start a fight with the left. That’s not helpful to our current situation; it literally only helps the fascists.
I mean go around the country, give tacos to everyone, rich or poor. Seems like a sound policy while simultaneously poking fun at Trump.
Ok but what are they doing about the fascist takeover of your country?
Give out free guns and MANPADS instead
That seems like socialism, Republicans would hate that. Guns are only for people who can afford them and white people, otherwise the cops wouldn’t know who to shoot and who to give leeway to
They also give out free votes to the Republican party in Congress.
Now this is how you stop fascism.
That’ll show him!
On one hand, it’s useless performative bullshit. On the other hand, Trump seems to be exactly the kind of guy to get really upset about that sort of thing.
Also it’s this type of performative bullshit that gave Trump his power. Don’t underestimate the power of this type of thing.
I’d still prefer actual policy, but it’s a start
Yeah it doesn’t work like it does for him without a face. There’s no face here. It works for him because it’s him, personally, doing and saying wild shit.
Where have I heard this before…