It is risky to come here. You anything besides English and you could be having to deal with ICE and get kidnapped.
Hoping my flight to visit the US this fall has empty seats.
(I’m a US citizen who has not been back to the states for over 5 years. Going to visit family and meet 2 of my sister’s children.)
P.S. it feels like I need this disclaimer to explain why I would go there.
Correction, you WERE a US citizen!
-ICE, probably.
Don’t give the fascists a reason to imprison you
By then, ypud better delete all your social media post just to make sure you dont lose your citizenship over some random like of a trump meme
You might be in luck, I just rode the AA56 Mia - Heathrow and there were more than a couple rows of seats with one lucky guy. Seats open here and there as well, not a packed flight to the point where overhead bins who are usually crammed were open and some still could fit stuff.
First time in about 10 years traveling I’ve seen this.
I’ve been lucky with this particular flight before having the entire row, but it’s been years and I’m doing a different airline this time, so hopefully it plays out the same way.
P.S. it feels like I need this disclaimer to explain why I would go there.
Believe me, I understand. And I’m sure a lot of other people do, too.
I do a lot of online language exchange. I have dual citizenship, but if anyone asks, I’m Canadian.
P.S. it feels like I need this disclaimer to explain why I would go there.
You did. I live here and my reaction to your post was l, “Why the fuck would you willingly come here?”
Ew gross, you are going to the US, on purpose!? 🤣
Tourism is down? No shit!
I’m in a situation where I might have to travel with a group of students, and big boss is dead set on the US. We’re talking overtime, plane tickets, car rental, hotel, and a per diem. But still I’m resigning before I’ll go to the US right now. If ICE or CBP sees 10% of the stuff I’ve said about TACO, and politics in general, online, I’d be lucky to just get shipped home.
American here. I wouldn’t want to visit here either. I do Nazi this as a good destination spot.
so clearly you’re doing something about it, right?
Clearly doing as much as you are
Really? Not even countries in open war saw a decline?
2025…
Depends how you define “tourist,” I suppose.
It’s only been a couple of months. For many people across Europe, visiting the US is quite a trip, these are easily planned a year in advance. Therefore, many still visit the US, because otherwise they might lose serious sums of money. I’m curious to see what next years figures will look like
Good. We fucking deserve it.
Tourism went down in Berlin in 1935, but that’s not the same thing, right?
And up in 1936 on account of the Olympics. You’ll never guess who’s hosting the 2028 games.
What the fuck lol
History really does repeat itself
Let’s see when a latin American person wins, whether Trump refuses to shake hands
They’ll get deported on their way out of the stadium.
Nah. Deported before the event to ensure that somebody whiter wins
No one wants to visit. ICE is even detaining white people from Canada and UK, no one is safe from this Trump crap.
Why the fuck anyone want to come here right now? Dick-tator Dipstick running the show with his mushroom-fellating moron brigade cheering him on as if he wasn’t shitting his pants and reading at a third grade level…
Selling off our public lands-- you know, the shit people want to see when they come here…
Getting arrested for coming here AS A TOURIST and potentially being thrown in a fucking concentration camp…
Everything is way too expensive and untrustworthy
Getting arrested for coming here AS A TOURIST and potentially being thrown in a fucking concentration camp…
Yep. That would definitely rank very fucking high for me if I was a non-USian who thought about coming here. Most especially if I wasn’t doing the Dark Forest theory of Internet use and/or if I was not white/xtian.
These assholes are wanting to log in to devices at the border and are trolling for political content.
https://apnews.com/article/internet-privacy-smartphones-travel-e0a3146ae7966ea0e4157dbfae1f6a81
Even if I wanted to visit the states. Can I risk having my holiday ruined and the money I’d lose if I was randomly turned away at the border?
It’s not even safe to transit the states at the moment.
The reality is this:
They are accosting and hassling/turning away people who aren’t white. And I see pushback on this in the weirdest forms, people saying how most immigration officers are hispanic or black also, etc. That does not matter. This is entirely superficial and ordered by higher-ups and designed to drive up hate and racial tension so we don’t unify. If you’re not white, you face significant chances of being hassled at immigration but there are still thousands and thousands of people passing in and out of the country daily, so it’s not THAT high of a chance.
As for transit across the states? Outside of some real backwater sundown towns in the deep south, there is a massive cognitive bias at work in the USA that works in two directions.
I can promise you that you can be brown, asian, hispanic, purple with polka-dots and could most likely bicycle across the entire country and you will be treated with kindness and respect and people will offer to take you into their homes across the country.
The weird disconnect that people are having a hard time digesting is that some of these same people will go online and scream about how immigrants are ruining our country and that we need to start a race war.
We don’t live in a coherent reality in the USA anymore. The media world, including the internet and places like reddit and lemmy and facebook and twitter reflect a weird “mirror universe” where people are following an entirely different set of feelings.
We are in a new world of cognitive dissonance and I fully understand how off-putting that is and I recommend not visiting the country for that reason alone. Don’t give this country tourism money as long as this administration remains in control.
Most people don’t have problems but we are shocked to hear Canadians and Australians were turned back because they spoke out against our
regimegovernment.It was unheard off. Freedom of speech? Gone. 🗽, diminished.
If you got into the country, what’s to stop ICE from picking you up and sending you to a prison in another country?
As an American even I don’t want to leave because I’m very critical of this administration and god forbid they’d somehow connect me with my online persona. I just don’t want the pain they could cause. I don’t “think” they could deport me (50s very white male) but who the fuck knows at this point. Gravy seals that are cosplaying as some military elite in their tacticool gear are just snatching people off of the street.
That’s the beauty of not having duo process, your rights and citizenship don’t matter at all Because you never get to the point to be able to prove it, you just disappear
Gee, I wonder why?
The rest of the world are such bullies.
Not even North Korea?
They just opened a new waterpark, it was big news and all
That’s a pretty mid water park. I feel like they could do better
West Edmonton mall anyone?
That was only one building, this is how it looks like from the outside
No idea why a European would ever want to come here. The travel options there are much better and cheaper. Oh and you won’t get thrown into a foreign prison.
Throwing aside the current administration… There’s so much to see in the US. All the national parks and other sights. It’s a roadtripper’s dream. One of the most diverse countries as far as landscape and climate is concerned. We have Disneyland in Europe (Paris), but there’s Disney World in Florida which is way bigger (never been to either, not THAT big of a fan myself, but I know there’s loads of Disney fans). NYC, LA and SF are all great cities to visit I hear, though I’ve only been to NYC (lots of fun - there’s so much to discover just by walking around)
Now as a foreigner I’m slightly scared of the current admin despite being pasty white, so I’m not going to visit again anytime soon. But one day I would like to come back for sure. Until then… I do still have a LOT of Europe to discover as well, I’ve only spent any real time in my neighboring countries, others I’ve visited very briefly.
Throwing aside the current administration…
That’s not true, I noped out after they want pants on head insane after 9/11, you’re just seeing that amped up now. People just normalised it as they will this.
I spent quite a bit of time there and lived their briefly early this century but havent been back since.
There’s so much to see in the US.
Agreed but the worlds big place and lots to see
It’s a roadtripper’s dream.
Or nightmare because you’re forced to use a car, train travel is laughable and walkabilty is ridiculous in most places.
But to be fair for environmental and carbon emission reasons I don’t fly anymore and try not to drive unless it’s essential.
All those national parks are on the chopping block too now. Unless major changes happen it won’t be worth visiting in 10 years.
Slightly off topic, but If you have the time to travel; may I suggest looking into Interrail if you’re not already aware of it. An interrail pass would be the European equivalent to an american road trip imo.
One train ticket helped me cover places like Portugal, Spain, and Italy, all the way through to Switzerland and onto Hungary, Poland etc and back home all over the course of two weeks.
I was backpacking solo, so just looked up hostels in whatever city i ended up in on the day. But you could just as easily use it to plan a family itinerary. The actual ticket lasts a lot longer than a fortnight too; I’m just a slave to the machine and couldn’t get more time off.
I will once they finally build rail baltica lol, otherwise I’d need to fly anyway, or drive which makes luggage more convenient
I had a Finnish friend visit me in LA a few months ago and he had an absolute blast. There are still plenty good people and things to do and see in the US.
I live in the US and I still haven’t visited LA. The US is fun but right now we are just “not cool”.
Oh definitely not. We’re blisteringly uncool sadly
Aside from politics, the US has a ton to offer for someone that wants to experience the world. The Rockies, Appalachian trail, Great plains, deserts, huge rivers and lakes, and a bunch of other natural beauties. Not that mountains and bodies of water don’t exist elsewhere, but when it comes to nature, there’s something for anyone that likes being out doors.
From a tourist side of things, places like Disney World, Universal, Las Vegas, New York City, and others just don’t have the same thing elsewhere. I’m more into the nature side, but lot’s of people really enjoy the big cities and amusement parks. The Rockies also offer some of the best snowboarding and skiing in the world, and there’s only 1 Appalachian trail.
Too bad politics makes all of that less safe for foreigners and is actively enshitifying nature.
