“I think it’s going to require a little bit less navel-gazing and a little less whining and being in fetal positions. And it’s going to require Democrats to just toughen up,” Obama said at the fundraiser
yes, its the navel gazing voters who are to blame here:
128 Dems shot down the trump impeachment push recently. https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-impeachment-aoc-al-green-democrats-vote-b2776294.html
16 Senate Dems Join GOP to Advance Crypto Bill—A Gift to Trump’s ‘Reeking Corruption’ https://www.commondreams.org/news/senate-democrats-genius-bill-advance
A Tale of Two Resolutions: 75 Dems Join GOP in Resolution Praising Trump’s Mass Deportation Regime https://jonathancohn.medium.com/a-tale-of-two-resolutions-75-dems-join-gop-in-resolution-praising-trumps-mass-deportation-regime-15cf590770ea
Democrats join Republicans in sanctuary city crackdown https://www.usconstitution.net/why-some-democrats-joined-republicans-in-a-sanctuary-city-crackdown/
Dems join Republicans to boost defense spending in Trump agenda bill https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2025/04/29/congress/dems-join-gop-to-boost-defense-spending-00317618
Texas Democrats join Republicans to place citizen voting requirement on statewide ballots in 2025 after blocking the amendment in 2023 https://news.ballotpedia.org/2025/05/16/texas-democrats-join-republicans-to-place-citizen-voting-requirement-on-statewide-ballots-in-2025-after-blocking-the-amendment-in-2023/
7 Democrats vote for GOP resolution condemning LA protests https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5373771-la-riots-gop-resolution-democrats/
Four Democrats join Republicans to pass SAVE Act bill that requires proof of citizenship to vote https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/house-vote-save-act-voter-id-b2731102.html
Six U.S. House Dems join GOP in condemning Harris, Biden administration over border policy https://washingtonstatestandard.com/2024/07/25/six-u-s-house-dems-join-gop-in-condemning-harris-biden-administration-over-border-policy/
15 Democrats Join House GOP to Pass ‘MAGA Assault’ on Nonprofits https://www.commondreams.org/news/hr-9495-passed
Some Democrats join Republicans in voting to strike down Biden’s EV mandate https://walberg.house.gov/media/in-the-news/fox-news-some-democrats-join-republicans-voting-strike-down-bidens-ev-mandate
Most Senate Democrats Join Republicans in Calling for Corporate Tax Break https://itep.org/most-senate-democrats-join-republicans-in-calling-for-corporate-tax-break/
Sen. Elissa Slotkin is lone Democrat to cross party lines in vote to revoke California’s EV emissions waivers https://www.cbsnews.com/detroit/news/elissa-slotkin-california-ev-vote-senate/
8 House Democrats join Republicans in voting to strike down California’s electric vehicle mandate https://www.foxnews.com/politics/house-democrats-join-republicans-voting-strike-down-californias-electric-vehicle-mandate
Full List of Democrats Voting to Block California Ban on Gas-Powered Cars https://www.newsweek.com/full-list-democrats-block-california-gas-car-ban-2066890 https://www.splinter.com/35-house-democrats-join-republicans-in-declaring-themselves-enemies-of-climate-progress
Democrats join GOP to kill air pollution, appliance rules https://www.eenews.net/articles/democrats-join-gop-to-kill-air-pollution-appliance-rules/
House Democrats bash Senate colleagues for backing GOP spending bill: ‘Huge slap in the face’ https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5194414-house-democrats-senate-spending-bill/
10 Democrats join with Republicans to censure Rep. Al Green for Trump speech protest https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/06/politics/al-green-censure-trump-protest-house
Senate Democrats join Republicans to gut Dodd-Frank banking regulations https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2018/03/16/dodd-m16.html
62 DEMOCRATS JOIN 207 REPUBLICANS IN VOTE TO CONCEAL GAZA DEATH TOLL https://theintercept.com/2024/06/27/congress-gaza-death-toll-democrats/
81 Democrats Vote With GOP for Military Budget Barring Gaza Death Toll Citation https://truthout.org/articles/81-democrats-vote-with-gop-for-military-budget-barring-gaza-death-toll-citations/
16 Democrats join most Republicans to force administration to send arms to Israel https://jewishinsider.com/2024/05/16-democrats-join-most-republicans-to-force-administration-to-send-arms-to-israel/
Over 20 Democrats join Republicans in House censure vote of Rashida Tlaib over Israel-Hamas war comments https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/watch-live-house-democrats-hold-news-briefing-after-censure-of-rep-tlaib-over-comments-on-israel
‘Deep sense of outrage and betrayal’: House Democrats react to Schumer announcement https://www.npr.org/2025/03/13/nx-s1-5327600/house-democrats-outrage-spending
yes, its the navel gazing voters who are to blame here:
He was speaking at a private fundraiser, I don’t think he was talking about the voters. It was about the party looking around for a strong leader and doing nothing while ignoring the various races that were actually going well against the right.
Half your base cries when adults talk too loud. You indulged and nurtured a base to be incapable of resisting the DNC leadership and in doing denied them the skillset needed to be tough enough to fight. You coddled the entire left and stunted their development and now you need fighters that don’t exist. Why were you not promoting toughness before it became apparent that’s what you now need? Oh right, because you’d offend and lose your voting base if you had told them to toughen up years ago…
says the asshole who started the drone war in Yemen
says the asshole who let McConnell and the GOP steal his supreme court seat
Cuz the man who gave up Universal Healthcare to give us fucking Romneycare while having total control of the govt really knows how to play hardball.
The audacity of hope through the governing of what’s possible.
I don’t like Obama much - his drone strikes and war-hawkish policy nor bailing out the banks when he had them over a barrel, but i’m tired of this bullshit narrative.
House control: yes, no question.
Senate control: barely.
Obama would not have even been able to pass his bank
robbery‘stimulus’ without three Republicans crossing the aisle to vote for it in early 2009. Yes, very much a man with ‘total control’ of the government…Obama had just 4 months with senate control, and that whole time it was on a knife edge. 60 (of 100) votes are needed to bring legislation to the floor to even be voted on without filibuster. So for ‘total control’ a party needs 60 seats/votes in the senate. The dems had 57 in Jan 2009 at the start of Obama’s congress, with 2 independents (Bernie and Joe Liebermann) who caucused with them, taking them to 59. Republicans had 41.
That 59 included Ted Kennedy whom had a seizure during an Inauguration lunch of Obama’s (he was privately dying of brain cancer) and he never returned to vote in the senate - dropping the number to 58. Also, Al Franken was not seated until july due to a very close election in his seat and multiple recounts - until then the number was 57.
Long story short by September 24th they finally had 60 seats… But democrats are not a monolith. Just as there are Manchins and Sinemas and other ‘Democrats’ in recent memory that are barely left of Ted Cruz, there were several of similar ilk back then like Max Baucus, Kent Conrad, Ben Nelson - and their independent caucus member Joe Lieberman, mentioned earlier - who all fought against much of Obama’s legislation, for example with respect to Obamacare they quashed any chance of a public option and single payer.
So did he have control: technically, briefly. Could Obama just run through any legislation he wanted during that time? Absolutely fucking not.
Obama the “war hawk” who just watched as Russia strolled into Crimea
He’s a fucking coward. First time in my lifetime that Democrats had a 60-40 majority, and he totally compromised.
Mr. Obama, you caved on all of the major issues. You were a great candidate, an amazing speech giver, and a mediocre president. And that’s OK – we would be happy with mediocre today – but you don’t get to tell us what’s good for the party when you are the perfect example of its biggest problem.
Obama promised to close Guantanamo if elected. He noped out of it almost immediately.
That is a bit of an exaggeration.
To me, it never felt like Obama was truly committed. Also why promise it if you don’t know if you can actually do it or is contingent on factors outside your control?
Obama, just like the Republican Party is no more under Trump, the Democratic party is no more under Pelosi and Schumer.
There is no true two party anymore. There’s simply the fascists and the enablers.
We’ve had to put up with your bullshit for over a decade - we’ve gotten tougher than you can even comprehend you Orange pork rind.
That is rich coming from him.
“There’s been, I gather, some argument between the left of the party and people who are promoting the quote-unquote abundance agenda. Listen, those things are not contradictory. You want to deliver for people and make their lives better? You got to figure out how to do it,” he said.
“I don’t care how much you love working people. They can’t afford a house because all the rules in your state make it prohibitive to build. And zoning prevents multifamily structures because of NIMBY,” he said, referring to “not in my backyard” views. “I don’t want to know your ideology, because you can’t build anything. It does not matter.”
Claims that leftists and abundance Dems need to work together, then immediately starts promoting the abundance agenda. What a transparent shill.
yeah! what Obama should have told people was that they should ban all muslims and start tariff wars, ya know, like any smart politician would say!
then commit felonies and start a insurrection. Why obama whyyyyyy cant you be perfect!? Why would you enact the ACA-a republican invented idea–then turn around and on us poors!? This is why after my 3rd ex wife left me for (reasons) I decided to burn down the garage move to spain! Damn you Brandy, you tranparent shill who just wanted me to not be a douche!
Right. So, my point was that, while calling for unity between leftist and centrist within the party, Obama is actively promoting the centrists’ abundance platform, which makes that call for unity ring hollow. And your point is…“yeah, but orange man bad!”
Well, thank you for that contribution. It’s given me a lot to think about.
“orange man bad” is the response from someone who is literally defending what trump is doing because they don’t like–in this case–obama.
You don’t like what obama is doing? show me in your comment history where you criticize trump with as much fervor? No seriously I don’t have enough time but I do think are a smart enough person to have made comments about how terrible trump is now. I’m sure you have
“orange man bad” is the response from someone who is literally defending what trump is doing because they don’t like–in this case–obama.
The fuck are you talking about? No one here is defending Trump. The only reason we’re even talking about him is because you brought him up in a cynical, transparent attempt to deflect criticism from Obama.
And no, I’m not going through my comment history to prove to you that I’m sufficiently anti-Trump, but you’re welcome to do it yourself if you want. I’m sure it won’t take you long to find example of me calling him or his administration fascist. See, when you grow up, you learn that not everything is a binary, and that criticism of Democrats isn’t support for Republicans.
The fuck are you talking about? No one here is defending Trump. The only reason we’re even talking about him is because you brought him up in a cynical, transparent attempt to deflect criticism from Obama.
Comparing presidents is deflection now? I’m saying do you attack trump as much as you do obama? this isnt deflection its a literal question of your standards. You hold democrats to a higher standard than republicans who literally have caused an insurrection, and then blame democrats for being too centrist. You are so transparent its sad. The saddest part is people like you convince others that ‘both shides are the shame’ in a shameless appeal to sound smarter than your ave-ra-ga bear. Then when called out regurgitate the same sound bytes you pretend to be against (orange man bad)
its ok, I’ll look through your history later, I doubt I’ll see you shaming trump as much as you do obama though. we’ll see. and if I am wrong I will apologize. (ain’t lookin too good for you though right now, mr orange man bad)
There are two things you need to understand, so please take them to heart. The first is that you read two sentences of criticism about a Democrat and extrapolated an entire fictional person from them. All of the opinions you believe I have about Democrats, Republicans, “both sides,” and my standards aren’t mine, but a made up character’s, who you are arguing with inside your own head.
The second thing is, while you are welcome to go through my comment history, I really don’t need any apology from you. I sincerely could not give a fuck about what you think.
thats ok, anyone who utters the phrase “orange man bad” has no sway in my opinion of them other than negative things. It was a given before I even have to look at your history (which by the way im sure is full of self-assured ‘i know better than anyone else’ both sides are the same bs that I see everywhere on the net) I won’t look through it if you dont me to, and if it makes any difference, I respect you as you sound like a smart person.
Obama did some good and bad things, what he didn’t do was commit felonies and attempt to ban an entire religion. (half of my families) I just love to mock people who attempt to equate the two candidates as if they are on the same playing field. you can mock me for that if you wish. Its only the internet. But if it makes any difference.
Let me know when Obama walks through a teenage beauty pageants changing room and brags about it. And then we can argue about who is the worst pedophile it’ll be hilarious
I’m sure Chuck Schumer will have a strongly worded letter for this. Wait what am I thinking, Obama is on their side, they’ll completely destroy him for this.
Be honest have you ever watched Chuck Schumer on CSPAN or do you only see him in the clips Jon Stewart shows?
Not enough people voted for Democrats so Chuck Schumer currently has less power than Jon Stewart. Jon Stewart has a much larger audience on his show (and therefore more influence) than Chuck Schumer has on CSPAN yet he devotes a significant amount of time complaining about Chuck Schumer.
It’s weird.
I cut the cord years ago and never bothered to replace it with a OTA cable replacement since I cut the cord because I wasn’t watching the content, so I don’t have C-SPAN.
That being said I do keep up with politics outside of the daily show, and I remember when the Vichy Dems had the house, the senate, and the white house in 2020 and they still failed to make meaningful changes. Sure they passed a few spending bills to fund the economy… sorry I mean support the American people, but they could have put in stop gaps after what they saw from the first trump regime.
So what they do? They followed Schumer’s lead and bent over backwards to try and accommodate the republicans who once they got what they wanted would move the goal post and delay everything even longer.
And yes I’m calling them the Vichy Dems, they have capitulated to fascism. The fact that the January 6th commission was slow rolled, and Merrick Garland wasn’t hauled in for questioning every week until something meaningful was done about the attempted insurrection, means the Dems are just as responsible for the meds we’re in now as the republicans. Dems had the power and Chucky pushed to not use it, and now we’re all paying the price.
Chuck Schumer currently has less power than Jon Stewart.
Seeing what Chuck Schumer does with power, I’d say this is a good thing.
It’s a bunch of nonsense. Stewart has more influence on the public, and Schumer is an actual politician with real political power and decades of experience to know how to use it. He just doesn’t, because he’s a Zionist neo-lib and his interests don’t align with the American public’s.
Thanks Captain Hindsight! Nothing can go wrong with openly opposing a newly minted and poorly organized fascist upstart with a well funded secret police.
Sorta off topic, but ive been playing the game We Happy Few recently, and I want so badly for them to make an America DLC where you grow up going through American public school and being taught you live in the greatest nation on earth, then you stop taking your Joy and the disillusionment sets in.
Is the Hope and Change guy back again?
Haven’t seen him since Jan 21, 2009
This motherfucker is half the reason we’re in the position we’re in. How many whistleblowers and journalists did he prosecute?
We see you
Dubba’s third and fourth term.
It’s kinda ironic, I don’t know whether this reflects how the guy actually thought about his presidency, but when he was in office there was a lot of chatter about the kind of “legacy” his administration would have. I’m fairly certain now that he’s gonna be one of those overlooked presidents, seen as a caretaker-administration to all the shit started by GW Bush and a preamble to a lot of what Trump has ran wild with.
Maybe the history books also mention he passed a healthcare bill inspired by the Heritage Foundation and insurance lobbyists.
Yup.
Bring back the Bull Moose party. We need FIGHTING progressives. I’ll do it if no one else will
Post the website when you’re done.
