For roughly 100 days, Thomas says he faced harsh detention conditions, despite agreeing to deportation

Thomas, a 35-year-old tech worker and father of three from Ireland, came to West Virginia to visit his girlfriend last fall. It was one of many trips he had taken to the US, and he was authorized to travel under a visa waiver program that allows tourists to stay in the country for 90 days.

He had planned to return to Ireland in December, but was briefly unable to fly due to a health issue, his medical records show. He was only three days overdue to leave the US when an encounter with police landed him in Immigration and Customs Enforcement (Ice) custody.

From there, what should have been a minor incident became a nightmarish ordeal: he was detained by Ice in three different facilities, ultimately spending roughly 100 days behind bars with little understanding of why he was being held – or when he’d get out.

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    Like 80 years ago. Nobody was safe from Nazi German GeStaPo. Why do people expect safety from or accountability of the Nazi American GeStaPo?

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    “Armoured cars, tanks and guns! Came to take away our sons! But we stand behind the men, the men behind the wire!”

    Latinos and Irish united in their fight against immigration officials!

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    she has had European clients shocked to learn they can face serious consequences for briefly overstaying a visa.

    Are people stupid? Visa says “GTFO before this date”. If you then don’t then there are consequences. It’s not that hard to understand, no?

    I agree that it’s ridiculous how people treated in those jails, and that he should not have been held for 3 months, but come on…

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      Key word is “serious.” Overstaying a visa visit is a civil offense, not even a criminal misdemeanor where the punishment may just be a small fine.

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      He had a medical condition, in writing from the doctor that he couldn’t fly for 8 to 12 weeks in case of blood clogs. He notified the authorities that he might be overstaying a little without any response.

      And still he got detained, the US is a banana republic led by an ape.

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      If the government is so incompetent that it detains someone for months because they overstayed their visa for 3 days , do you trust them to handle anything else correctly?

      It should be pretty easy to detain someone, say, hey you didn’t leave on time and get them on a flight out. This doesn’t take months, especially if there’s some actual circumstances like this guy apparently had.

      This type of behavior is going to stop international companies from doing any in person business with US companies. It’s disgusting.

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      You forget that the camps are private, so they need to keep him there to get paid. 100 days seems like about enough.

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      Detaining people isn’t free either, we also paid to keep them here longer. The whole thing is immensely stupid.

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        Lives gets destroyed, everyone pay for it, money is diverted from actually useful stuff, but all this is a low price to pay for a handful of mafia bosses to get even richer.

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        Only if you believe their words, which you absolutely should not. A for profit prison management company got paid for 100 days detention when they would have gotten 0 if they let this guy leave.

        Everything working out as planned.

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      Look up the unjust hangings of Dominic Daley and James Halligan in 1806. There was no evidence whatsoever that they committed the murder they were accused of other than maybe being in the area at the time and even that was based on shaky grounds. The defense even had their closing statement saying that the prosecution had no evidence other than ‘aww come on! They’re Irish! You know how they’re like! Besides, someone has to hang for that murder!’

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    At least this (probably) white guy, who speaks the same language, got to suffer on taxpayers’ dollars. What a relief. /s

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    It is justification of budget. They are apprehended criminals as long as they are on the books.

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    The Irish were second class citizens when segregation was a thing. This makes sense, I you don’t think too hard.

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    Just stupid all around…

    “You overstayed your welcome, buddy. Now instead of letting you go home, we’re going to keep you trapped here even longer.”

    Do you want them to stay or to go? Make up your friggin’ mind! 😬

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        While profiting off of it. Government contractors were paid for 100 days of related services for this poor fellow.

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      I’m waiting for the “we’re going to hold you in the country for staying in the country to long and hold you and extra day for every day you continue to be in the country”. At this point I wouldn’t put it past them. The cruelty is the point.

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        He is probably in a for profit prison. There is a big incentive to imprison people. Government provides prisoner, private prison share holders get paid by the public and by the people hiring their prisoners for slave labor and politicians get a kickback.

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        But at this point why even bother meeting the quotas? Can’t they just lie and tell everyone they deported 3 billion immigrants so that the racist rednecks will all cheer and smile?

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          It’s likely that both things are happening. I’m sure there are some that stretch the numbers but there are also others who revel in the cruelty.

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          I think people aren’t realizing, they’re racist af. They are actually doing nazi things all the fucking time now. They have actual concentration camps. The point is to get rid of anyone not white. Their lead nazi dude (white nationalist) is a Jewish person. It’s just as insane as the nazis too.

          Edit: Also, to fill their prisons to hand out prison contracts and get slave labor. This is also a money grab.

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      Kolanaki, i guess you’re not really getting the point here. The point is intentional cruelty to demotivate these people to ever come to the US again.