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Meltdown incoming
Good for Pope Leo, it is disgusting how awful this war has been.
I’m not Catholic and live in the US
How much power does the Catholic Church and Pope really have anymore? I can’t remember the last time anyone has mentioned the Pope in my day to day life. Not that I’m around people that would talk about it much to begin with.
Sometimes he’s mentioned in the daily conversations once he says something controversial or big. But the real base of supporters is in the churches; they do repeat what he said once a month or so and pray together for it to turn into reality
pray together for it to turn into reality
I guess you can say that, but I think what’s more important is that when he says something that goes against their presumptions they are forced to deal with it.
Francis’s low-bar acceptance of queer people really made a big difference in how many of his followers actually interact with them. Very, very far from perfect, but a huge number of people were forced to challenge their prejudices. Where I live, most people regarded the Venn diagram of gay people and child molesters to be a circle, and now while you’d still still be treated like shit, the idea that you can be gay without being the scum of the earth is much more common. The pope said they’re not bad people, so millions have to find it within themselves to follow what he said.
The Catholic Church will never be a beacon of progressivism. But they’ve been okay at giving stragglers a trustworthy lifeline to slightly more open minded positions.
I don’t think this excuses the bad stuff they’ve done (since this is always brought up any time anyone says anything positive about the church) but I don’t see the church disappearing anytime soon. I’ll take the good where I can find it. (Also the church is very influential where I live, so it’s important that they keep challenging the regressive ideas a lot of powerful and enfranchised people are holding on to. You don’t want to be challenging the pope by denying the atrocities in Gaza do you?)
That makes sense.
I was imagining individual people listening to his words. Having church leaders disseminate it makes it more powerful.
I haven’t gone to church in years and I freely admit I didn’t think my question all the way through before I asked it. Of course people will listen to what their clergy say. It’s kind of the point.
…he is the head of state for a worldwide diaspora…
…this pope must be from the south side…
Can it even be called a war anymore?
Absolutely. War is “a state of armed conflict between different countries or different groups within a country”. It’s an armed conflict between Israel and Palestine indeed. You can give it other bigger names too but it certainly fulfills the definition of a war as well
There is an Israel - Hamas war, but that ain’t this, that’s the guerrila war fought in the ruins of Gaza.
This is is something else: as per the admition of actual IDF soldiers participating in these shootings of people trying to get food aid that they’re been ordered to shoot at civilians, this is just state sanctioned mass murder.
Everything I hear these days is just people from the Israeli army shooting people waiting for aid. Sounds more like hunting for sport tbh.
Also baiting hunting game with food probably isn’t very sporting?
I hope he’s not planning a trip to Britain any time soon. We’d be forced to lock him up for that kind of terrorist talk.
The idea is to scare the rest of Palestinians into not going to get food aid, so that they can starve to death and be blamed for it.
The Zionists are ever so slightly white-washing their Holocaust to make it palatable to “Liberals” (especially the US, British and German kind), otherwise they would only have the support of Fascists, and it really doesn’t take much because those “Liberals” are pretty close to the Fascists politically, morally and ethically, so even the flimsiest, most ragged, and obvious to anybody with more than a brain cell of excuses is good enough for them.
