If Zohran Mamdani gets elected and actually follows through with his campaign promises, this is factually incorrect. I am holding on to that last glimmer of hope.
I’m expecting Hope and Change 2.0. Mamdani is almost certainly going to quickly be informed of how wealthy he and his kids can be and turn his back on New Yorkers if he gets elected, just like Obama.
No, I expect liberal voters to get off their asses and keep primarying establishment Dems that aren’t serving their constituents so we can reform the Democrat party.
This isn’t what would happen.
Realistically all that will happen is the party ignoring him and continuing to pander to the right.
The last time the democrats were progressive was under Roosevelt. Not much longer and that will be 100 years ago.
And that would be your opinion. Do you belive there is another path of action that can be taken that would result in better living standards for the majority of people in America?
You know Marx wrote several books about that. And he’s by far not the only person who has.
The first step in the right direction is delegitimising the state and its institutions. Protest, normalisation and strategic use of political violence. Disruption and sabotage of the economy as much as that’s possible for an individual or group. The building of mass movements, not necessarily political parties, with a concentrated vanguard leadership.
I am volunteering at my local DSA chapter to try to affect positve change in the direction of my views. So, what steps are you taking in the real world to make real change in the US?
It is great to have ideals, but if all you do is talk about how, “X is not possible and we actually need to do Y”, you discredit those who are actually putting in effort to make a change and discourage people from even trying.
I am actively engaging in a political party that seeks a departure from the US and NATO. It uses populist policies to polarize and at the same time weakens the far right by drawing from their ranks with said populist rhetoric and policies.
We are doing what we can, but to topple any government, conditions first have to worsen.
As I’ve said before the best we can basically do is stoke the flames until the right conditions arise for real change.
My issue is not with people trying to act. It’s with people who act wrong either out of malice or just ignorance. That is what reform is. Capitalism has never been overthrown via reform and never will be now. Liberals are too brainwashed to realise that capitalism needs to be overthrown for any meaningful lasting change, so instead they act to feed it, thinking they can reform it into being good. Something which is not possible, as it goes against it’s structure and ideals.
I am actively engaging in a political party that seeks a departure from the US and NATO.
Lol. Of course you are.
capitalism needs to be overthrown
I’ll wait for you to explain what it will be replaced with and how that will work. I’m not exactly in love with capitalism, but I think a heavily regulated capitalism is the best we can do at this point in human history.
You sound like a Libertarian. Grand ideals. No follow through.
That would be accelerationism. The attached link might not completely match your views, but what you described aligns with it.
I was considering adopting this ideology during the presidential election and either voting for trump or not at all, but I decided against it. Adopting this view means you are discounting the sheer amount of human suffering that would be involved in the process because, “The ends justify the means.”
Yes there is suffering right now, I am not discounting that. If you care about people, I would recommend taking the slow route of reform that will get us to a better place with enough time and effort.
You cannot deny that progress has been made over the last 100 years. It may not be much, but life is much better than it used to be for a lot of people. Not to say life is good, just to say we have been SLOWLY stepping forward.
actually follows through with his campaign promises
Don’t count on it. Not for any bad reason, just that things are harder to implement than campaign promises, whether it’s city council in the way or just practicality.
I’m just saying he can be a success without implementing all of his campaign ideas.
I can almost guarantee you that both corporations and the right wing will try to stop or reverse anything he does. If he shows that the Republicans oppose these extremely popular initiatives, it might cause a massive swing of voters, who believed trump’s campaign promises, to shift over to the left.
If Zohran Mamdani gets elected and actually follows through with his campaign promises, this is factually incorrect. I am holding on to that last glimmer of hope.
I wish I could.
I’m expecting Hope and Change 2.0. Mamdani is almost certainly going to quickly be informed of how wealthy he and his kids can be and turn his back on New Yorkers if he gets elected, just like Obama.
And you expect the party to simply follow suit and embrace his policies?
No, I expect liberal voters to get off their asses and keep primarying establishment Dems that aren’t serving their constituents so we can reform the Democrat party.
This post is talking about co-opting the D party. Which is exactly what Mamdani would be doing if he follows through.
This isn’t what would happen. Realistically all that will happen is the party ignoring him and continuing to pander to the right. The last time the democrats were progressive was under Roosevelt. Not much longer and that will be 100 years ago.
And that would be your opinion. Do you belive there is another path of action that can be taken that would result in better living standards for the majority of people in America?
You know Marx wrote several books about that. And he’s by far not the only person who has.
The first step in the right direction is delegitimising the state and its institutions. Protest, normalisation and strategic use of political violence. Disruption and sabotage of the economy as much as that’s possible for an individual or group. The building of mass movements, not necessarily political parties, with a concentrated vanguard leadership.
I am volunteering at my local DSA chapter to try to affect positve change in the direction of my views. So, what steps are you taking in the real world to make real change in the US?
It is great to have ideals, but if all you do is talk about how, “X is not possible and we actually need to do Y”, you discredit those who are actually putting in effort to make a change and discourage people from even trying.
I am actively engaging in a political party that seeks a departure from the US and NATO. It uses populist policies to polarize and at the same time weakens the far right by drawing from their ranks with said populist rhetoric and policies.
We are doing what we can, but to topple any government, conditions first have to worsen. As I’ve said before the best we can basically do is stoke the flames until the right conditions arise for real change.
My issue is not with people trying to act. It’s with people who act wrong either out of malice or just ignorance. That is what reform is. Capitalism has never been overthrown via reform and never will be now. Liberals are too brainwashed to realise that capitalism needs to be overthrown for any meaningful lasting change, so instead they act to feed it, thinking they can reform it into being good. Something which is not possible, as it goes against it’s structure and ideals.
Lol. Of course you are.
I’ll wait for you to explain what it will be replaced with and how that will work. I’m not exactly in love with capitalism, but I think a heavily regulated capitalism is the best we can do at this point in human history.
You sound like a Libertarian. Grand ideals. No follow through.
That would be accelerationism. The attached link might not completely match your views, but what you described aligns with it.
I was considering adopting this ideology during the presidential election and either voting for trump or not at all, but I decided against it. Adopting this view means you are discounting the sheer amount of human suffering that would be involved in the process because, “The ends justify the means.”
Yes there is suffering right now, I am not discounting that. If you care about people, I would recommend taking the slow route of reform that will get us to a better place with enough time and effort.
You cannot deny that progress has been made over the last 100 years. It may not be much, but life is much better than it used to be for a lot of people. Not to say life is good, just to say we have been SLOWLY stepping forward.
https://pols.sites.haverford.edu/studentvoices/what-is-accelerationism/
Don’t count on it. Not for any bad reason, just that things are harder to implement than campaign promises, whether it’s city council in the way or just practicality.
I’m just saying he can be a success without implementing all of his campaign ideas.
If he legitimately tries, that is enough for me.
I can almost guarantee you that both corporations and the right wing will try to stop or reverse anything he does. If he shows that the Republicans oppose these extremely popular initiatives, it might cause a massive swing of voters, who believed trump’s campaign promises, to shift over to the left.
https://gothamist.com/news/how-voters-in-trump-districts-helped-mamdani-win-the-democratic-primary