• skisnow@lemmy.ca
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    2 days ago

    I hope nobody who made fun of Trump for posting that AI picture of him with a red lightsaber, upvoted the meme depicting Leftists as Dr Evil…

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      Trump is an insecure man child and a clown for posting that AI lightsaber picture.

      Upvote

      Fuck him.

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    Is Vice President Vance on those lists? He probably isn’t – if for no other reason then because he’s too young to have been there. Are we really looking forward to him being the president? That’s what will happen if Trump gets removed, isn’t it?

    I don’t know man, this sounds awfully lot like an attempt to divert US aid from Ukraine. Especially when this whole thing started exploding just when Trump decided to start supporting Ukraine.

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      You’re cool with the rapist pedo being the president as long as Ukraine continues to get aid? Also, that aid should be determined by Congress.

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      Pence wouldn’t have lunch with a female unless his wife was also present. I know anyone could say that makes him even more likely, and it very well may be, but after all this time the man still has no skeletons. He’s likely actually that religious.

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    Hilarious that they think they “got us” with someone who was president a quarter century ago.

    Democrats voted unanimously to release the files, Republicans voted to hide them. Explain that, MAGA.

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    In fact we’d be absolutely delighted to filter all the oligarch class pedos out of politics. And yes, all means all. From all corners. Businessmen, politicians, faith leaders. All of them.

  • Frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    Obviously, we don’t really care about Bill Clinton, but I would like to bring up someone a lot of us will care about, and should still treat the same way.

    Marvin Minsky was a pioneer in the AI field. He also had ties to Epstein. Now, you may not care about Minsky or AI (though I’ll point out that the research field and what capitalism is doing with that research are very different things). But you might care about Richard Stallman, and he comes into this, too:

    https://www.npr.org/2019/09/17/761718975/free-software-pioneer-quits-mit-over-his-comments-on-epstein-sex-trafficking-cas

    The controversy swirling around him now stems from a series of emails from a CSAIL group email list–made public by Selam Jie Gano–in which Stallman said that a 17-year-old girl who allegedly was instructed by Epstein to have sex with AI pioneer Marvin Minsky likely seemed “entirely willing” to engage in the illegal act. He also argued it is unfair to call such an incident “sexual assault”.

    Stallman dropped out as president of the Free Software Foundation because of this.

    Minsky himself died in 2016, but as far as I’m concerned, Stallman got exactly what he deserved. There’s no evidence he was directly involved as far as I’m aware, but those are not acceptable comments to make, and he shows some deep misunderstandings of consent here.

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    The right considers Republican pedophiles good pedophiles, while the left considers all pedophiles vile. Enough of the double standards bullshit for the rich at the expense of children’s lives.

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    The cult has always assumed that everyone’s as bad as they are. That’s why they do the things that they do.

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      Well, investigate both. And if they’re guilty (which seems likely for both) throw both in jail!

      Though to be fair, Dump himself should go to jail even without any Epstein revelations, he’s done plenty else too

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      This might unfortunately make me sound like a pedophile… but all decent humans don’t hate pedophiles, they hate (child) sexual assaulters (is that a word?). All decent humans want pedophiles to get appropriate and effective help long before they act. Which would both reduce the number of harmed children and increase the number of functioning and (possibly) happy adults

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        On all other things I would agree. In general, stigmatization causes lower administration rates w/ therapy and block effective help.

        But I draw the line at pedophiles. life sentence, shortened to 25 years after chemical castration and mandatory psychiatric evaluation

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      All decent humans hate pedophiles

      There has been a recent wave of online influencers and their ilk suddenly talking about how being attracted to minors is “the most natural thing in the world for all men.”

      Combine this with the recent push for removing child-labor laws and you really see what the right’s values are.

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          I don’t like how we can’t define what being “Decent” even means anymore. Why is it now such a huge problem for people to figure out what’s right and wrong? How did we actually have a Christian pushback against empathy?

          I lost a friend recently. To religion.

          He revealed that he can’t figure out how to have his own values so he turned to Jesus. He said he can’t tell what’s right or wrong anymore. What was happening is that his family were supporting Trump mindlessly, but he felt uncomfortable with it because he has a young daughter and feels really apprehensive about Trump’s history and allegations among other things.

          So his solution? Turn to Christ, his family’s Church said that Trump is chosen by God, so he can now support Trump without a conflict of conscience.

          Yes, that is literally his reasoning, and he is fine with it.

          This is the average median voter in this country. This is why everything has gone to shit. Because average people look outside themselves for moral guidance.

          I was always told how people follow cues of other people for an idea what to do or not, but I never really saw it until I saw a car get crushed by an 18-wheeler on the highway and traffic came to a stop. Someone got out of their car. Picked up a piece of twisted bumper that was in the lane in front of him, moved it aside and got back in and everyone kept driving. (I helped pull the old couple out and they were okay, not another soul stopped. DPS officers said that’s normal, sometimes they will go out to remote accidents and people will have bled out in their car because nobody stopped to check the occupants.)

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    Clinton was a neoliberal shitbag just like Reagan and HW Bush. I’m a prison abolitionist so just take every cent he has and give it to Epstein’s (and Clinton’s) victims. Let him die poor and hated.