• Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      22 hours ago

      they bought into the whole lower taxes, plus banning abortions, control of womens bodies by thier conservative politician talking heads.

      • TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        2 days ago

        I don’t know why you think that means we shouldn’t ridicule conservative men as a whole. What counts for “conservative” now is actual fascism, not simply being bigoted or wanting deregulation. This is how MAGA “conservatives” themselves gatekeep things, so it’s not like I’m painting with a broad brush.

        If someone escapes the cult, I’m proud of them, but I’m not pulling punches on the tribe they used to be a part of.

        • FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          0
          ·
          2 days ago

          I don’t know why you think that means we shouldn’t ridicule conservative men as a whole.

          The activist class doesn’t ridicule conservative men as a whole.

          They ridicule men as a whole, and ignore that the crises facing men are not imagined nor hyperbole: they’re real, and the only people acknowledging them or pretending to offer solutions are conservatives.

          Ask yourself how likely you are to trust people who punch you in the face, and how silly it is to blame them when it’s you who threw the punches and broke your hand.

          • TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            0
            ·
            1 day ago

            The activist class doesn’t ridicule conservative men as a whole.

            They ridicule men as a whole, and ignore that the crises facing men are not imagined nor hyperbole

            Just because so many men believe this doesn’t make it true. I’ve had to hang out with men who believed similar things, and in my experience they had never actually met these activists they fear. Even when there are women who think that poorly of men, most of them aren’t out there harassing random dudes. That sort of discourse is either targeted or terminally online.

            The real failure of the left has always been offering salient narratives; catchy ideas that are convenient and empowering. Believing you’re superior for the circumstances of your birth is easier than class consciousness. Accepting that certain arguments really did have no merit is harder than doubling down.

            Men are treated like shit by conservative ideology; a belief system that leaves many of them behind completely and works every one of them to the bone for some mythical masculine glory. I have empathy for men, as they need to escape the conservative trap that’ll chew them up and spit them out.

            • ℍ𝕂-𝟞𝟝@sopuli.xyz
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              0
              ·
              15 hours ago

              Believing you’re superior for the circumstances of your birth is easier than class consciousness.

              Which party in the US is offering class consciousness as a platform? I think neither.

              • TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                0
                ·
                15 hours ago

                That is another huge problem. The left has better narratives than the liberals, but the libs do everything in their power to prevent the left from existing.

          • petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            0
            ·
            1 day ago

            Racists only need to trust that saying the n-word in public will get their ass beat.

            So it is for being republican.

            Why are you people so opposed to using shame to your strategic advantage?

            Being conservative is not genetic: If they don’t want to deal with the extreme difficulty of being republican in public, then they should stop doing that.

            I don’t care if they understand why or not. They will submit or perish.

            • ℍ𝕂-𝟞𝟝@sopuli.xyz
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              0
              ·
              15 hours ago

              They will submit or perish.

              Nah, they will be further radicalised, dress up like a fucked up call of duty mascot, and throw you in a concentration camp.

              The only way to fight back against the rich is to create broad alliances among the people and convince even the idiots that you are not taking their life away, it’s always been people like Trump. It’s hard work I know, but the alternative is basically civil war in an optimistic scenario.