• Deceptichum@quokk.au
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    Damn, really sounds like some sort of political party should have tried to capture voters interest instead of pushing the status quo that has been suffocating folks for their whole life.

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      This shit is so fucking lazy.

      Biden enacted plenty of progressive asks during his term. Harris outlined plenty of progressive asks in her campaign as well.

      Just because it wasn’t 100% of what YOU personally wanted doesn’t mean it wasn’t good legislation.

      Hope none of your family dies because of this, because if they do it’s on you, mr protest voter.

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          Yeah, he personally turned 26487 children into various meat products for the whit house barbecue. He’s a surprisingly good chef, though. Those spare ribs were the best I ever had.

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            He personally ensured Israel had the bombs and international legal protection necessary to murder all those children. He did everything he could to guarantee those children died in twisted shieking agony. In fact, many of them did burn to death and he his personally responsible for cooking them alive.

            Let me put it this way: I don’t feel like I deserve to live anymore for my role in the genocide.

            Do you feel innocent?

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              Do you feel innocent?

              Yes. Because our 2 options were a fascist, and a Liberal. Liberals may suck, but they can be worked with, and reasoned with. Fascists don’t have that perk.

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                Liberals are just fascists with better PR. They absolutely cannot be reasoned with, as evidenced by the democrats being exactly as complicit in the genocide as the republicans. No reasoning has managed to convince that party that Palestine deserves to exist.

                Just admit what you really mean:

                “The democrats may be just as genocidal outside of our country, but at least they’re not genociding inside our country like the republicans would”.

                Or, put simply, “the democrats are evil in a way that doesn’t impact me”.

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              And now thankfully Trump has stopped the genocide, oh wait he accelerated it.

              With Kamala there was a chance things would have changed. The dems were at least applying pressure to Israel to find a resolution. I have plenty of criticisms and am pissed we spent tax dollars arming Israel.

              However, now our government is enthusiastically supporting the elimination of Gaza. So yeah that didn’t pan out

        • “Queermunist”, implying you are both queer and communist.

          Mate you… you know you are the first group of people the turd wants to get rid of?

          You deserve what’s coming for you, because you are the one asking for it, so when they come for you (because, unless there’s a very significant change, it’s not an if but a when), remember that you voted for it.

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            Imagine telling a minority “you deserve to be killed by fascists because you didn’t vote for my preferred candidate.”

            It’s like they say! Scratch a liberal…

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              Imagine telling someone you’re fine with queer people being killed at home, because you’re so entitled that you sat out to defend those people.

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                Did I say I was fine with this? I just believe we can do things other than wait for the next election to stop it from happening. Get organized, get a gun, and get ready.

                Are you going to act? Or are you going to sit on your ass and wait for another election that is never going to come?

                Because if you’re waiting for the next election to stop fascism you are going to lose.

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                    Talking about what? Owning a gun is a right! I certainly would never use it for anything other than paper target shooting on a gun range.

                    That’s all paper ballots are good for - target practice.

                    But it’s not bad opsec to tell people to buy guns. That’s just sensible. The people without guns are the ones that are targeted first .

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                I live in a red state, my vote doesn’t even fucking count in this shit hole country.

                Don’t be so modest, you’re excited for me to get murdered for being disobedient. That’s why you won’t lift a finger to resist fascism. Voting is the limit of your participation in politics and you aren’t going to be allowed to vote fascist away.

                I won’t be surprised when volunteer to be one of the camp guards because you think you can change the system from the inside.

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                  I live in a red state, my vote doesn’t even fucking count in this shit hole country.

                  Loser attitude.

                  Don’t be so modest, you’re excited for me to get murdered for being disobedient.

                  Whiny bitch attitude.

                  That’s why you won’t lift a finger to resist fascism.

                  We voted against it, dipshit. Stop trying to goad others into taking physical action when you’re too much of a pussy to do it yourself.

                  Stop typing. The more you type, the more of a fool you make yourself out to be.

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              It’s called self preservation and acknowledging that America’s voting system is fundamentally flawed. You vote for harm reduction not perfection.

              It’s easier to fight against the genocide in Israel when you’re not under a fascist government in your own country

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                I refuse to choose genocide for self preservation.

                In fact, I kind of want to die just for my role as a passive participant in the genocide. I think about Aaron Bushnell a lot.

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                  So by not wanting to be complicit in one genocide you allowed fascism to rise and now are unwilling complicit in more crimes against humanity.

                  Harm reduction is a simple concept

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                  I refuse to choose genocide for self preservation.

                  Then you’ll get fascism at home. And did.

                  I kind of want to die just for my role as a passive participant in the genocide.

                  You sound like kind of a fool.

      • Psychadelligoat@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        Harris outlined plenty of progressive asks in her campaign as well.

        She also outlined a move to the right and lied about working super hard for a ceasefire

        So tired of people pretending the Dems weren’t a horrific choice in 24, likely on purpose to give repubs their turn

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          So tired of people pretending the Dems weren’t a horrific choice in 24

          Yeah, way worse than literal fascism.

          likely on purpose to give repubs their turn

          Lol. Do you still wear your clown nose when you’re at home alone? 🤡

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                A lack of vote is a valid choice in the system, if it wasn’t then it wouldn’t be allowed.

                You chose to sit out, so why would anyone want to listen to you?

                So that they can get your vote next time, should they actually want to win? What kind of moronic question is that, are you guys actually as stupid as it seems the Dems are at understanding basic shit?

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        The percentage of people who don’t vote hasn’t changed much in 100 years. Call them lazy, uneducated, apathetic, etc, it makes no difference. They don’t vote and that’s all there is to be said about it. If you’re waiting around for them to start voting for your preferred candidate you’re going to be waiting for the rest of your life. Stop talking about them and start making other plans.

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            And it swung the 2020 election. Biden still holds the record for the most votes of any president ever, Trump was number 2 for the most votes ever in that same election.

            You cannot swing for the center and hope to flip some republicans. They vote on a single issue, and that issue is usually, “who will hurt the people I hate most”. They like to play it off as “Fiscally republican” or some other shit, but it’s all lies and falls apart if you pull on the threads of their reasoning.

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            Yeah maybe its the job of the politicians to go out and get peoples votes and listen to what they’re concerned about rather than just sitting there saying well you have to vote for us cuz that guys worse

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              They ran on universal healthcare and taxing the rich. Their sitting president was one of, if not the most, progressive president in our lifetimes with a strong economic recovery record. They even listened when their base told them Biden was too old and gave them a younger candidate.

              Just admit that the dumbfucks that voted 3rd party or didn’t vote were single issue losers who couldn’t see the forest for the trees and now we have fascism in America.

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        Because Joe “nothing would fundamentally change” Biden was so progressive.

        Hope none of your family died in the years before Trump like the hundreds of thousands of others who die each year from easily fixable causes but weren’t because they lived in status quo America.

        Quick question, do you in any way shape or form hold the Democratic party responsible for their performance at the polls?

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          How many billions of dollars in student loan debt did Biden cancel? How much more would have been cancelled if the supreme court didn’t act in a blatantly partisan manner?

          Yeah, I do hold them responsible. Shumer shouldn’t be in leadership and AOC should be on every high profile committee there is.

          Not voting solves nothing. You know how you get more progressive legislation passed? By voting for the party that has progressives in it. That’s how. More democrats means more people like AOC. It doesn’t fucking matter if your personal rep is a god damned blue dog if it means there’s one less republican in congress.

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            How many billions in student loan debt did Biden create by helping establish the predatory student-loan system as it currently exists?

    • So, between someone who doesn’t allign 100% with my views and it’s not a nazi and an actual nazi, much better to choose the nazi, right? I mean, I guess it’s your vote so you can do as you please with it, but I reaaaaaally hope you don’t get any of what’s coming for you, because you know… you voted for all this so there is no empathy left in me for someone who’s getting what they asked for.

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        there is no empathy left in me for someone who’s getting what they asked for

        Is that really something you think anyone here will care about? whether you “have empathy” for them? You have a wildly overinflated ego buddy. Have empathy, dont have it-- it doesnt matter to anyone. But if you could be less tedious and noisy we’d all appreciate that. Why dont you try that angle? Threaten to be yourself unless we do what you want.

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          “you have a wildly inflated ego, buddy”

          writes dissertation on why they don’t care, because their opinion is the one that matters