and she is old enough for presidential nomination now. do it, aoc.
The US is simply too misogynistic to elect a woman as president, especially a woman of color.
The unfortunate reality is that our best bet for the White House is a progressive white man with AOC as VP.
I believe that even AOC knows this.
You will get Kamala or Gavin and you will like your Trump 3rd term. - Dems
🎵it’s sad, but true🎵
I don’t think that’s true tbh. The Dems have never managed to nominate a popular woman as their presidential candidate before. Clinton was almost universally disliked by the public (for lots of good reasons other than her gender), and ex-prosecutor Harris’s campaign was hamstrung by Biden, as well as being seen as an other pro-corporate Democrat stooge. AOC might actually have a fighting chance compared to her predecessors. But she’ll never be able to be the Democratic candidate until the old guard of leadership is replaced, let’s face facts.
You can’t say that because there is no reliable data to go off of. Kamala and Clinton were terrible candidates.
You think we’re still doing elections? I cherish your optimism
I have said this elsewhere, but i will not again vote for the Democratic Party until they actually put up progressive candidates. Not pinky swear to pass progressive policy. That means the candidates has to have a provable history of struggling against the Democratic Party to pass progressive policy. There are only two i know of and that’s Bernie Sanders (who is too old for the presidency), and AOC. Else it’s third party until the democrats learn better.
I will vote for the democrats if I am able to transfer my vote after my real choices dont win. Best get on that electoral reform blue states.
I will vote against genocide, even if it means voting for a lesser amount of genocide. I’ll never vote “no preference” on genocide.
You do you. Though the platform was never ‘less genocide’ the platform was ‘an unwavering support of our ally in Israel’. It was an assumption that trump would be more genocidal, due to his inherent evil. But as far as i can see, trump so far has not escalated that situation any faster than the previous trajectory.
Seems to me that getting the democrats under control, and answering to progressive voters is the better long term play. Maybe they would actually then run on a no genocide platform. You can’t say ’don’t let perfect be the enemy of good’ when we are not even at neutral yet let alone good.
Mass disappearing immigrants and putting them in overseas concentration camps is more genocide than the democrats did.
That is not a genocide. I mean its evil and we should not stand for it. But lets not be hyperbolic over the term genocide. When we are talking about the genocide in Gaza, we are not being hyperbolic.
When looking over more then just the situation in Gaza, trump is undoubtedly worse then Biden. The issue is that choosing the lesser of two evils has brought us to this point, the only way to pass progressive policies is to use the leverage voters have to force democrats to comply. That means if democrats refuse to accept progressive terms, that republicans will consolidate power, and that would be bad. However, in such a scenario, ours and democrat loss would have been guaranteed regardless of a vocal call to task. The only power the progressive voter has is to leverage their vote against the threat the republicans face, and if you capitulate, then best case scenario is the can gets kicked down the road and the democrats become more right wing.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/james-clr/works/world/ch12.htm
One year after Hitler, Stalin and Otto Bauer were still hoping to come to terms with Fascism. Being what they were it is clear that before they had had actual experience of Hitler, the idea of the German workers fighting Fascism would not have crossed their minds. “After Hitler, our turn,” is the concentrated expression of bureaucratic inertia, cowardice, ignorance and short-sightedness, Stalin could not say openly what he meant. He had to dress it up in revolutionary words, to promise the deluded German workers that the revolution would come after Hitler had come to power.
We already tried accelerationism in the 1920s, genius.
It’s ironic that you accuse me of accelerationism, while you argue for a vote blue no matter who. Do you even know what accelerationism means? I do not advocate for democrats to lose the election, i advocate in having my votes be conditional to the furtherance of interests. The Democratic Party is the agent here, they are the ones who use accelerationist policy in an attempt get people to vote against their best interests, vote blue no matter who has always been a demand to silence progressive voices to meet right wing ‘centrist’ ‘half way’. My stance literally opposes democrat parties current accelerationism.
Make it clear to the Democratic Party establishment that progressive candidates will be on the ballot in every congressional district in Nov 2026, and they will be a spoiler candidate if they have to be. Either way, we are done with their shit. There will never be a better time.
The way to prevent a new party from being a spoiler, is having the neoliberal DNC not running a candidate.
Since they clearly aren’t interested in winning or stopping Trump, nothing would change.
Look into star voting when you have a chance. The democrats can be whatever they want if the voters get the freedom to transfer their vote how they wish.
Oh I love star voting, I try to use it when I can in groups/communites. I used it when a decently large discord server had its only active admin just leave randomly, and there was a handful of people interested in running. STAR enabled a good result for the top two to become co-admin. Worked well until a schism happened and 90% of the active users left, myself included.
So the Dems are running the campaign for JD Vance now? Wow, easiest election ever
Zero chance the DNC will run her. They’ll give us another white bread, right of center, compromise candidate. The Overton window has shifted so far right we need to build a new wall to house it.
The Overton Window isn’t real. Political parties can create their own political realities by leading the electorate, rather than cowardly tailing the electorate like they’re advertisers trying to sell a product.
The Overton Window isn’t real.
Define real? There is certainly something in US politics that acts exactly like Overton Window.
It gets the causal relationship between political leaders and the masses backwards.
The Overton Window presupposes that politicians are limited by the electorate in what they can discuss and pursue; there’s a range of acceptable politics which is created by public opinion.
The reality is that public opinion is created by political leaders and politics is the tool they can use to change the range of acceptable opinion.
By getting the causal relationship backwards there is a tendency to tail the masses rather than lead them. Instead of using politics to create new political realities, politicians behave as if they are trapped within the existing political reality by politics. They seem to think politics is something that happens to you, rather than a tool you use to do things.
There’s a range of acceptable opinion, sure, but it doesn’t limit politics. Instead, politics creates the range of acceptable opinion.
She should distance herself from that sinking ship. It’s like continuing CPR on a victim who is already dead. Yeah you’re trying but ultimately it’s no use. Both main parties have been so tarnished that even being associated with the name is a smudge on the record.
So just bury the head in the sand and let the world (or at least US) collapse (i.e. uncontrolled climate change, entire degradation of the social system to capitalism)?
All of those are already happening with or without her in charge. One party actively wants all fo that, the other party doesn’t fight it.
Disagree. The Democrats dont know who they are anymore. Pelosi and the old Democrats have got to go.
AOC should just make a new party.
“MAKE A NEW PARTY!11111!!1”
That’s not how America works. Only Democrats and Republicans can actually get elected at the level AOC plays at, because the electoral college only recognizes Democrats and Republicans.
The Whigs are still on the ballot then, right? Since no new parties are ever made, and third parties can never win, it’s still Democratic-Republicans vs the Whigs in 2025, clearly.
That made me chuckle.
Thank you! :3
Thank you. A little mirth where we can find it is mandatory!
If I can’t laugh about something maddening, I’ll go even crazier. I already have 4 mental health issues, I don’t need to add more. My plate is full and I’m low on spoons.
I hear you, friend. I daresay too many share the experience. I’ve certainly been there, before, and I am in full accord. Make merry where we can, it lightens the load for a moment. Wishing you the best.
I still have to lol about how the stupid qons tried to use her dancing in university as some kind of BAD thing.
Back when Denver Post still had a comment section and they’d allow gifs, and if the topic was AOC, I’d post her dancing. A few of the local wingnuts would try to get me banned/my posts removed over it, esp. if one of the qanon mods was on-duty…
She’s the best. Why the buzzkills in the unhinged right tried to paint a beautiful intelligent rep like AOC dancing during college as a bad thing is anyone’s guess, but that sure as fuck blew up in their faces…
AOC dancing and having fun is somehow anti-American and full blown socialism, according to Republicans.
Are they… Still considering Harris for 2028??? What? Please god. Make it stop. Please.
It’s.
Her.
Turn.
“It’s my turn.” was everything wrong with Hillary’s campaign in a nut shell.
How the fuck are you able to make yourself look like an unhinged ego-maniac who just wants to be President for the sake of being President, when you’re running against Trump? That shouldn’t be possible.
