What do warmongers and strongmen chat about? Living forever, of course.
Put yourself through traumatic surgery and then load yourself up with immune suppressants in a world that’s gonna develop more and more pandemics.
…do it. Do it do it do it.
Personally, I crave the strength and certainty of steel.
Do you want cybermen because Kit Pedler had a whole thing about this…
One day the crude biomass you call “the temple” will wither, and you will beg my kind to save you.
But I am already saved, for the machine is immortal.
There is no truth in flesh, only betrayal. There is no strength in flesh, only weakness. There is no constancy in flesh, only decay. There is no certainty in flesh but death. --Credo Omnissiah
Oh boy, perpetually recovering from surgery at an advanced age!
I’ve seen The Strain, this ends in facist vampires and nukes
I’ve just had some -ectomies and ooooof that’s gonna do him in at his age. It went well when I was young and I still barely survived.
Traumatic surgery, sure.
But I assume the plan is to build replacement organs with your own dna, not transplants from donors.
They’re dictators and wealthy psychopaths.
They don’t need people to donate, they’ll simply take what they want, like they’ve always done.
They’ll just live in a bubble. They practically already do, for their own safety, because almost every person on the planet wants them dead, most with good reason (some just want to take their place).
Our one saving grace in this post truth, post experts aren’t Johnny with a 4 chan account world, is that these dictators are so fucking stupid. Let them think they could have multiple organs from multiple “donors”. Sad part is we might lose a doctor or two when the bad hit outside the park, was dropped.
Can’t help but think that people who want to keep themselves alive forever have fundamentally missed the point.
They absolutely have, they just want their name in a history book when life is so much fucking more.
I would like to live forever. See how things turn out. I’m not going to be in any history book
Real talk. Just to observe what this all turns into. Do we nuke ourselves then I just float in space slowly going insane cause I can’t die. Or do we get Star Trek gay space communism, then I can leverage my seemingly invinciblity to go on deep space exploration missions, coming across the guys that turned themselves into sentient balls of energy and convince them to turn me into one too, then experience their culture for a few lifetimes before eventually becoming Q and fucking with other passing physical beings.
Living forever is a pretty direct fuck you to the next generation of humans so I can’t support it unfortunately.
How is that a duck you to anyone?
Under the current system, which has a lot of built in false scarcity, it would mean a 20 year old would be fighting your 300 year old self for resources. In a world with more even distribution of resources maybe it could work temporarily but eventually humans would either need to stop reproducing or enough people would need to die of war or starvation to justify continued reproduction.
A system like this ultimately amounts to eugenics as only the “haves” will have access to immortality while the “have nots” perish naturally.
Desiring immortality is an inherently self centered mindset.
May the pursuit of immortality go as well for him as it did for Qin Shi Huang.
how did it go for that guy?
His tomb is so toxic archeologists can’t risk opening it. Turns out mercury is really cool but not the secret to immortality.
Cheney is the primary test subject
I swear, this time we really have found the fountain of youth!
yeah this isn’t WH 40K. You can’t make a “Primaris Putin” and “continuous organ transplants” are only going to top you out at a few extra years, maybe, unless this fucker has somehow struck a deal with Nurgle or Khorne or some other Warp entity.
Now if his flesh starts bubbling and his intestines are suddenly on the outside of his body and he grows a maw on his shoulder? yeah then I’d start worrying.
Has anyone seen his shoulders lately? It’s been a long time since that shirtless pic of him riding a horse…
So in other words, “immortality” until the brain cancer is inoperable.
Seems deeply unlikely to work. The body only has so much capacity to heal from surgery, and that capacity diminishes with age, so eventually your surgeries would become too close together and you wouldn’t ever fully heal. At that point you might end up happier as a brain in a jar.
Yeah organ transplants are miraculous in the way medicine is miraculous not in the way religion is.
Medical miracles have limits and drawbacks. Organ transplants save lives and drastically improve quality of life, but it’s compared to a baseline of needing a new organ. Kidney recipients would much rather deal with anti rejection meds than dialysis. Heart recipients’ alternative is to die slowly.
Many rich people seem to think that shit like this will just replace their font of yang or something. They can’t accept that someday all that will remain of them is dust and consequences.
Death from unnatural causes aside, there are so many potentially fatal complications involved with an organ transplant, and even if you dodge all those bullets, there is the simple fact that we degenerate at a cellular level. None of us are on this Earth for long: rich, poor, president or janitor, death will not discriminate.
It’s really bad for the rich and powerful to forget that. Like partly for the people whose organs they’ll steal, but also just like for their psyches. Like, they’re clearly losing it.
Honestly even Rome (the republic) managed to be healthier about it. The element of the memento mori in the triumph, was just healthy. Sure you can have your great celebration honoring your conquest, but a slave will be following you reminding you that you too will die the entire time.
At that point you might end up happier as a brain in a jar.
They are already deeply unhappy broken individuals. They have everything and can’t get any more unhappy.
can’t wait until he goes to hell.
“Drink the blood of children and live forever!!!”
Calm down Countess Bathory
How long before I can sell my organ futures?
[mortality] haunt[s] people—especially aging tyrants who fear that the icy hand of death is upon their shoulder and want far more time to ensure both national and personal glory.
Show me where Xi or Putin expressed fear of mortality. Better yet, show me where Xi or Putin expressed interest in extending their lifespan.
Just read your article. Nowhere in it did Xi or Putin express fear of mortality or an interest in extending their personal lifespans.
All this is is musings on transhumanism.
It’s between the lines.
Start with the brain
In Rome, during a triumph, the celebrated general would have a slave required to remind him that he would one day die.
These globe striding tyrants need this now, but one guy reminding them during their parties simply isn’t enough. Every moment of their lives should feature that reminder. Like tinnitus but “Memento Mori” (or its equivalent in their native tongue).
They just need a bullet to the face. Simple.
I hope he gets a brain transplant soon. He really needs one.
What a zinger!
This sounds like someone who doesn’t know about organ transplants. I learned about lung transplants recently and about half of people die within 5 years of getting one. Those who make it longer often having major issues like popcorn lung that force them to live limited lives due to the complications. They also require lots of medications to make your body not reject them. Those meds can be difficult to actually take if you also have other issues that require different courses of medication like infection or cancer.
