This is ridiculous, and another reason the Left lost the Presidential elections. Charlie was not a “racist” nor did he preach about hatred and division. He simply wanted to debate people on politics and beliefs.
The man actually dared anyone. He was proved wrong.
intolerance cannot be tolerated!
Doesn’t matter. The Reichstag has burned. The Maine has sunk. Things are well and truly fucked, and most of the people around here are celebrating.
It would have been something else if this hadn’t happened.
The whole white washing someone after they died is the most insane thing that society has decided upon. As soon as someone is dead, society says that all their sins are forgiven and we should not speak ill of them.
When someone dies, they don’t magically stop being racist, sexist, transphobic, Nazi shit bag. Charlie Kirk was a piece of shit in life and still a piece of shit in death.
Its pretty funny that the do-nothing democrat clickbait websites like Common Dreams and Jacobin and Mother Jones are running this “we all have to cry for the nazi boy” rhetoric just because they know its good rage-click slop.
Just fuck off with this shit, idk why the kayfabe marks find this entertaining
We can condemn political violence and this hideous murder
Nah, im not gonna condemn this. He fucked around and found out. We are at a point in the U.S. where polite discourse doesn’t get you anywhere anymore.
Once you start advocating for putting people in camps, and wanting to harm people for just existing, I stop caring about what happens to you as a person.
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I find it hard to condemn this act of physical violence when Charlie Kirk was so willing to engage in acts of emotional and violence.
Although, having watched some of the things Mr Kirk said, I think the man might have had some mental health issues (dude was convinced angels and demons were influencing polotics), and I do consider myself a advocate for the mentally ill. So, in that framework I have say “This was the tragic result of a mentally ill man being miss treated by a society that does not value mental health enough”.
Mental health issues isn’t an excuse for being a piece of shit though. You can have mental health issues and also be the nicest person in the world. This guy spewed hatred and violent rhetoric everywhere he went.
If he were here I’m sure he would encourage us to not let politics hijack the narrative and remind us that some gun deaths are a small price to pay for 2nd amendment rights
It’s what he would have wanted.
Violence, politically motivated or otherwise, in unacceptable and has no place in our society.
That said, if it had to happen to someone, which even he believed was worthwhile, then…
Ehh, I’m pretty sure I’m going to celebrate his murder, I dont care.
What, you expect me to condemn whoever killed Hitler next?
Well, since Hitler killed Hitler, yes. Not for killing himself, all the other stuff he did.
What about all the good things Hitler did? Like killing Hitler?
Right, I actually hate the asshole who killed Hitler.
THANKYOU. His views were vile, his behaviour was repugnant, and no doubt the world is better without him. That doesn’t mean it’s ok to kill someone because their views are awful!! I’m horrified seeing how many people think it’s ok to do this
Soo… who is disenfranchising these Nazis? Who is systematically taking away their resources? Because it looks to me like they keep getting stronger, and I don’t know what else will stop them other than fear of death.
Don’t forget, fascists ultimately want to horrifically murder anyone who doesn’t blindly obey them. So if it must be either civilized people or them… sorry Charlie, you gotta go.
Or did you want to wait and sacrifice a few dozen more innocent people so we could have yet more incontrovertible truth that fascist ideologies always lead to fascist outcomes?
Would I overwhelmingly prefer he was deplatformed for his hate, ridiculed out of every spotlight, or censured through judicial means? Absolutely. ‘Vigilante justice’ on its own is no justice at all. But if this is a trolley problem, I know for a fact where I’m putting the switch. Do you?
In case you’re not familiar: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance
Yeah extrajudicial execution has no place in this world! (except for when, for example, trump wants to do it to venezuelans, or something like that. then its a good thing instead of a bad thing)
It’s okay to kill Nazis. Because it’s not just views. They are spreading violent rhetoric. He spread the white replacement and white genocide bullshit. He spread COVID misinformation. He said blacks were better off before the signing if the Civil Rights act.
He was a dangerous fascist mouthpiece. And now he’s not.
Nazi lives don’t matter.
Even he said it was OK and “worth it” if he got killed. He also said that people shouldn’t have empathy.
He literally thought empathy was a new and made up concept.
It’s worse, he didn’t think it was new. He knew it was a thing, and he was spreading the Evangelical (Christofascist) “The Sin of Empathy” rhetoric.
One example: https://www.desiringgod.org/articles/the-enticing-sin-of-empathy
I hadn’t heard of that, thanks.
Regardless of what he may have actually thought this is what he publicly stated:
“I can’t stand the word empathy, actually. I think empathy is a made-up, new age term that — it does a lot of damage.”
He would have been happy to kill trans people.
Was he even important? He was kind of a nuisance, a fool to make fun of, but did he matter?
Okay, I’ll condemn political violence against fascist enablers.
When the political violence exerted by states against their or other people will also be condemned ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Yeah we literally just had the mobster in chief order a hit on 11 random civilians in a boat. If you believe in the sanctity of human life, isn’t that 11 times as bad? Yet the media hasn’t even bothered to report their names.
No war but a class war.
