They can (attempt to) unmask Bansky all they want but his message will never die. Best wishes Banksy!
Banksy is Robert Del Naja from Massive Attack. That’s been known for a long time.
Fuck are you kidding me?
The plebs are getting rowdy. Surely this will send the message we’re hoping for and they’ll settle down.
Sounds to me like London just declared all their walls as open season
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So the state will assume he’s in support and jail him on assumptions? For a painting?
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UK, what the bloody hell is wrong with you.
Our current government is the labour party, the one of the big two that is supposed to be more left leaning. They haven’t been left leaning in twenty years, they crept to centrist and now the creep to the right continues. They’re not dissimilar from the democrats in America. Internationally, there seems to be a general move towards the right and we are certainly following it. Demonstrations and activism don’t seem to help. Shit is fucked, basically.
The UK government as effectively ignored all protests since the poll tax riots. The choice seems either start acting like the French or just sit down and shut up.
Yeah, and I’ve been on some actions that have kicked off, back in the day, fighting the lines of riot police. It was fun but achieved fuck all. Yeah we need many more people involved in aggressive protests. I don’t know if that will help either, but at least we need to mobilise a broader section of the population.
They’re determined to Streisand Effect this into the history books, huh?
So telling that they tolerated his “criminal damage” for literally decades, until it made them actually look bad.
No… they just have become more repressive and no longer tolerate being called out. This is a scary reaction for democracy for just a painting on a wall.
Roger Hallam - one of the founders of extinction rebellion - did a series of podcasts from prison I listened to several years back now. He spoke of this move to authoritarianism being an almost inevitable part of the process that can result in a chance of real social change.
I think his assessment of climate change is wrong in some pretty important aspects. But he has studied social change, and he has put his money where his mouth is. He is locked up now I think. It will take quite a few more people to get locked or beaten up, and a further march towards authoritariansim, before the chance of real social change arises, if he is correct.
All the other Banksy’s I can think of are just vaguely subversive about the system in general. CCTVs, Policemen kissing, hoodie wearer throwing flowers, assorted things about urban decay, that sort of thing. This is the first one I can think of that calls out a specific current event that you can attach names to.
Banksy is as much a person as Nicolas Bourbaki was. Although unlike Bourbaki, there is allegedly one guy who is kind of the main guy, but if that one guy goes to prison, I’m fairly certain Bansky artworks will continue to appear.
In fact I’d put money on the fact that one would appear in a prominent place soon after.
And if the establishment somehow manage to round up every single person associated with Banksy and manage to get something to stick to every single one of them, which I strongly doubt is possible, the rise in wannabe Banksy groups doing the same thing won’t be far off.
The artwork is almost always made with stencils and spray paints. Stencils can be prepared well in advance. A trained group could have one of these up in under a couple of minutes.
If I was Banksy - or one of them - I would almost certainly have distributed my art to trusted individuals for the event of my incarceration and beyond.
In fact I’d put money on the fact that one would appear in a prominent place soon after.
I mean, if it’s multiple people and the ones not incarcerated don’t immediately drop more art, I’d be disappointed.
I wonder how close they could get to putting one on the jail.
Could everyone in London just suddenly adopt a fashion trend of wearing V for Vendetta masks?
… Or is that already illegal?
I am banksy.
Same tho
spits out chewing tobacco
leans forward in chair, causing spurs to ring
adjusts cattleman hat
squints
Well.
Ain’t that just the darndest coincidence.
Me too.
Spikes my Mohawk with egg white
causing an uncomfortable squishing sound
folds the collar down of my spiked leather jacket
spits the taste of last night’s beer out my mouth
looks up and around confused
Why do I suddenly feel like a forty year old recluse?
Not sure pard’ner, but I got this here onion in my cross holster, if ya’ need it.
The UK has been a surveillance state for over 15 years. Now is becoming an authoritarian one too.
Tbf it would be pretty cool if he uploaded the templates for the artwork online, together with a how to, that way the piece could be put on walls by anyone.
Do they realize how famous and beloved that person will be if they are identified?
I just want him up be the most unexpected person.
like Lord buckethead, or the most gammon looking brit on the island
Or trans and from an immigrant family. Banksy is a national treasure as this point and it would be a nice win for British culture and minorities if they turn out not to be just another white guy.
that would also be cool.
Oh no! That is so scary. I hope that whoever it is doesn’t have decades of experience in working and traveling anonymously around the world while performing illegal acts of guerilla artwork while evading both the legal authorities and an adoring public fanbase!
It means Banksy, who has remained anonymous for more than 25 years, could finally be unmasked as he would be required to publicly disclose his name if brought to court.
Gonna be hard to bring them to court if you don’t even know their name, isn’t it?
With the London surveillance apparatus, I bet they could figure out who Banksy is. It’d be an insane waste of time and resources, but I bet they could.
Does he still install them himself? Isn’t it likely he sent someone to do it for him?
They have done both.
Couldn’t tell ya, but that’s certainly plausible.
Finally all that money they’re giving to antichrist speaker Peter Thiel going to good use
i don’t think it’d be that many resources. that’s why they put up the surveillance in the first place.
Could always make them waste even more resources by adding noise to what little data they might have.
I’mSpartacusBanksy!I’M BANKSY!
I’m Banksy and so is my wife!
I saw my dog with a stencil yesterday. Maybe he’s Banksy.
Mine peed on a wall today. Maybe Banksy is a team?
The fact that they’re going to all this trouble over this image proves the point the image was making better than anything else possibly could have.
If artwork is a threat to your system…
but, BUT, MUH LAW AND ORDER
Streisand Effect to the max.
Exactly and the image is already out on the internet now.
Link?
Before and after they tried to remove it only to further bolster the message
That is amazing. I love it when cesorship fucks its own ass lol.
Honestly, they inadvertently made it better, and certainly made it more poignant
Do you think it was intentional with the choice of paint, or did the person removing it intentionally scrub just the silhouette?
Looks like possible malicious compliance by the cleaning crew.
I know it’s what I’d do at least.
It’s almost like it was Bansky’s plan all along because the removed artwork looks just as powerful as the full artwork.
This was the best I could find without people in it when it first went up:
Seems like an opportunity for a bunch of street artists to show up at court and pull an “I’m Spartacus”.
I’m pretty sure there’s plenty of people out there who know exactly who Banksy is. It’ll be like with The Stig, all the journalists knew who he was but the mystery was more interesting and sold more papers.
He has sold some of his work at auction, I’m guessing they didn’t write a check to “Banksy”.
Banksy has also been to court before, fully represented by his lawyer. The odds of them not knowing precisely who he is are fairly low, I believe.
probably wrote the cheque to a shell company
There’s two companies associated with the name, at least. This is from memory, so grain of salt, but i believe there’s a company specifically to get a hold of the artist(s). And one that sells the prints and stuff.
Banksy is a company at this point. They can find them if they want to. It’s not like they’ve never exchanged money for thier work before.
Rumors (which are even on Wikipedia) say it’s Robert Del Naja from Massive Attack, who started as a graffiti artist. Bansky told interviewers that he was inspired by Del Naja.
If I was trying to keep my identity a secret, I wouldn’t say I was inspired by myself.
And not even in reverse-psychology way, because then the interviewer would probably look up Del Naja and an immediately make the connection.
Imagine if it isn’t Del Naja, yet everytime he travels somewhere someone puts up a Banksy near you. I’d feel so powerful and in control of that happened to me all the time.
Enough gas lighting to fill a Zeppelin.
I’ve long heard that his identity is an open secret and a lot of people know his actual identity. Solid chance the UK government already knows who he is.
Them silently knowing his identity is not the same as them proving his identity in court though.
Nothing will meaningfully improve until the rich fear for their lives
Careful what you wish for. I’m not disagreeing, but when the powerful are fearful, it will get worse before it gets better. Could be a whole lot worse.
Pretty sure that’s what’s happening now with all the online safety act chat control protesters are actually terrorists stuff
Things are already getting worse at a rapid clip.
Yup. It’s a one way trip to fascist dystopia until the oligarchs feel they might genuinely face the old French treatment.
Some prophecies are self fulfilling. Stalin’s paranoia didn’t kill him maybe, but it didn’t exactly save him.
Something about the parallel of Capitalism and Fascism eating themselves
