• Jo Miran@lemmy.ml
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    6 hours ago

    This is the vibe I get when I see articles like this.

    Those people (Republicans) are lost, and liberals are still holding on to their “The West Wing” fantasy. It’s up to progressives and leftists to build community networks, win local elections, and show the brainwashed and exploited masses (looking at you MAGA), that there is a better way towards dignity and prosperity. It sure as shit isn’t this neo-fascist cyberpunk dystopia fast track we’re on.

    • I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world
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      4 hours ago

      Right. These types of articles are such BS as most of the MAGA crowd literally does not give a shit. Completely out of touch leftists keep going “No, that can’t be right. They must certainly be upset with what’s going on. No one can see what’s happening and actually support it!” while missing what’s actually going on in reality.

      The truth is, most MAGA followers don’t have the first clue as to what’s happening and vehemently don’t want to know. That’s the part people in leftist spaces don’t get. Most folks on the right aren’t in support of the war or tarriffs, or Epstein, or any of that; they support Republicans and that is the end of the conversation. They don’t talk about that kind of shit. They talk about sports. They talk about their next family vacation. They talk about what new things they’ve bought and how kids today are lazy. That’s as far as it goes. When they are confronted with facts, they wave them away because obviously it’s all just an overreaction and both sides are bad, so who cares? If it was something REALLY bad, then they would have heard about it, right? Anyways, stop trying to make people upset, we’re trying to watch Sports Center.

      These people are so fucking clueless and are actively avoiding talking about or hearing anything negative. They have convinced themselves that any and all criticism as just meaningless complaints from angry leftists with TDS.

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        I take it you didn’t read the article? I would agree that MAGA diehards do not know what’s happening nor want to know, the title of this article is a bit disingenuous.

        With the 2026 midterms fast approaching, those divides have fueled speculation that MAGA voters might defect en masse from the GOP in November. But that’s not the primary threat facing the Trump coalition: Recent polling suggests that self-identified “MAGA Republicans” are standing firmly with Trump on the war and a host of other divisive issues, underscoring the stubborn reality that — as Trump has pithily put it — “MAGA is me.”

        Yet as several conservative commentators have recently pointed out, Trump didn’t win reelection in 2024 merely on the strength of MAGA voters. His winning coalition paired his core MAGA constituency with a broader constellation of other non-traditional Republican constituencies — disillusioned Democrats and “MAHA moms” and “manosphere” podcast bros among them.

        It is that broader Trumpian coalition — rather than the core base of MAGA supporters — that some Trump backers fear has been endangered by Trump’s policy choices. As the conservative activist Mike Cernovich put it this week, “A generational coalition, squandered.” …

        The ongoing military operations in Iran are prompting pushback from many of the usual suspects on the anti-interventionist right, led by figures like Tucker Carlson, Megyn Kelly and former Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene. But the war has prompted some more eyebrow-raising defections as well: On Monday, Stewart Rhodes, founder of the far-right Oath Keepers militia whose conviction for his role in the Jan. 6 riots was commuted by Trump, announced that he is “no longer MAGA,” citing his opposition to the war. Meanwhile, Joe Rogan, the leading voice of the Trump-friendly faction within the bro-podcast sphere, has said that Trump supporters feel “betrayed” over Iran.

        Some signs of intra-GOP dissent are starting to show up in the polling as well. Though over 90 percent of self-identified “MAGA Republicans” continue to back the war, close to 25 percent of “Republicans” and nearly 40 percent of “non-MAGA Republicans” disapprove of it. The war polls even worse with independents, who disapprove by an average margin of 70 percent to 30 percent. Those voters are also more likely to cite “affordability” as a primary concern, creating a political pitfall for the administration as the war drives up gas prices and threatens to stoke inflation.

        So although there are some MAGA big names that are dissenting, the real concern for them isn’t the ground MAGA voters but the coalition of voters next to MAGA who support it and are more likely to pay attention to one or more of the 7 issues discussed in the article. (Iran, Israel, Immigration, Epstein, Anti-Vax, and AI)

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        4 hours ago

        Quick clarification of terms, since I think you are using them incorrectly. In general, liberals, progressives and leftists ideologies are categorized as such.

        • Liberals want to make capitalism fair.
        • Progressives want to regulate it.
        • Leftists want to move beyond it.

        In the current US political environment the three terms are best used to describe the following groups.

        • Liberals - Clinton, Obama, Biden, Schummer, etc. What we in Lemmy tend to describe as the “Democratic establishment”.
        • Progressives - AOC, Bernie, Mamdami, etc. The Democratic socialists that want to fix and reform the current system.
        • Leftists - Almost always anti-capitalism. Want to replace the system if possible.