NEW YORK — Leaders of Young Republican groups throughout the country worried what would happen if their Telegram chat ever got leaked, but they kept typing anyway.
They referred to Black people as monkeys and “the watermelon people” and mused about putting their political opponents in gas chambers. They talked about raping their enemies and driving them to suicide and lauded Republicans who they believed support slavery.
I’d love to say this surprises me, but it does not in the slightest.
NYS Assembly benefits administrator here. I can’t wait to process the termination paperwork for Peter Giunta. It will be the highlight of my work week.
Peter Giunta, who at the time was chair of the same organization, wrote in a message sent in June that “everyone that votes no is going to the gas chamber.”
And instead of disavowing these scumbags, JD Vance is saying it’s not a big deal.
Just more “locker room” talk from the fascists.
It’s amazing to me that there are genuinely this many white nationalists/nazis irl. I honestly had no clue people were this awful and prevalent.
I’ve never seen people more openly willing to hate other humans based on race, gender or sex.
Why do we get to exist as a species if we are this toxic to ourselves?
We do give them a lot of attention. We should but we also need to remember how badly they see out numbered
…to the surprise of absolutely no one.
People need to go play Mike Tyson knockout with these people. Even the women. Nazi’s should be walking scared. Give them no peace.
If you really love him you should go out just like he did.
Indeed. If you’re a fan of Hitler, follow his example and take yourself out. Save the rest of us the bullet.
Both sides, right?
This is Charlie Kirk’s people.
I am shocked I tell you.
And some idiot in one discussion still tries to convince me there is a difference between Republicans and Nazis…
As if to put an even finer point on it. I just watched blackkklansman today and they really hammered home that that bullshit is not in the past, it is the present reality we live in. Opening lemmy to see the exact shit the white supremacists in the movie spewed is almost poetic in a fucked up way.
I cruised reddit the other day and was surprised at the boomer sexism all over the page.
Everyone with morals or if you hated Nazis got banned!
Some of us just left before the IPO made everything worse.
Which it has, obviously.
Fuck Reddit and Fuck Spez.
Yup these are his people, never forget that he was a mod of r/jailbait. Pedophile party all the way through.
Reddit will never take a stand against sexist, womanizing creeps.
Their communities are too large and bring in too much consistent ad revenue.
I’d love to say this surprises me, but it does not in the slightest.
100%. These assholes have been trained to gaslight and trot out nonsense about Robert Byrd being in the Klan like 100 years ago, or that Democrats were the real racists because of shit that happened before the 1960s, and completely ignoring (or lying about) things like the Southern Strategy and how the parties completely re-aligned since the Civil Rights era.
Thing is, I’m a white guy and I know how these motherfuckers talk when they think they are in a safe space. I grew up in an area that was overwhelmingly Republican, deeply racist and nearly 100% white.
They ain’t fooling me, I can tell you that much. This ain’t my first rodeo, I’ve heard all this shit before, and I’ve seen these mofos in action online since the BBS days, and shortly after that, the USENET days. I don’t care what kind of rhetoric they try to dress their “movement” up with and it doesn’t matter what protocol or platform they are on…their methods and tactics like employing the Gish Gallop should not fool anyone, either.
I want to like this comment 10 times. I feel like I’m reading my clones thoughts.
and how the parties completely re-aligned since the Civil Rights era.
“Completely” is wrong. The economically progressive policy on one side and crony-capitalist on the other have not shifted places.
One can rather describe it in the “Nazi bar” terms, racists jumped from the Democrat “bar” to the Republican “bar” and changed it for their ideas, but only where the racist categories were not orthogonal.
The Hitler Youth is back, although they never really left.
What is so goddamned infuriating is how the RW assholes like Tucker pull that Murc’s Law shit - that if he finds that he “has” to vote for fascists, it is the liberals that made him do it, because they have been (rightly) pointing out what fascists the Republicans and conservatives really and truly are.
That’s some serious mental gymnastics there - the fascists that keep showing their hand are going to end up fascists because the meanie smarty-pants liberals called them fascists, and that’s the only reason they are fascists. Well, that, and most entertainment and universities and science and culture really are not overly friendly to the far right, and even might have - gasp - not attacked the already-marginalized. Those monsters. Yep, it’s entirely the fault of the “woke” mind virus that the fascists became fascists who voted for other fascists. No other reason. Some blue-haired trans with too many face piercings stole their masculinity or something.
Even worse, the fucking Tone Police among the “centrists”, the corporate/conservative mainstream media that is called the “liberal media”, and not a few Democrats help them in this bullshit narrative.
This is the Streisand Effect across generations.
Censorship doesn’t work the way you people or your puppet-masters want it to. It just makes things worse.
Or the consequences of being a nazi havent been fully realized. My grandparents killed nazis.
“If we ever had a leak of this chat we would be cooked fr fr,” he wrote.
Get cooked, fuckface. nihilist racist pieces of shit
What’s wrong with “nihilist”?..
On it’s own, nothing really? As long as you don’t let that nihilism justify making life worse for others.
Combined with racism and the rest of the bigotry on display in these leaked exchanges, I think it’s useful to distinguish between someone whose ignorance has allowed them to be co-opted by bigotry against their own interests, and someone who justifies their bigotry because “nothing really matters”. I also think it’s useful to accuse them of not actually believing in anything when they’re running a political movement. Especially if the target audience for that movement does have a belief that some things intrinsically matter (be it democracy or, more likely here, the christian faith).
I’ll readily admit I was mainly trying to go for more than just “racist pieces of shit”, while having a clear impression from the tone and content of the leaked exchanges that there is an undercurrent of nihilism that is, if not fueling them, then at least lubricating them. If you have a better suggestion I would love to hear it.
Say what you want about the tenants of National Socialism Dude, but at least it’s an ethos.
I thought that at some point, but after encountering many real people in my life (doing all the human things, like breathing, eating, walking, sleeping, not an alien at all) I don’t anymore. It doesn’t fucking matter which consistent ethos a person has, all of them are fundamentally inconsistent due to human psychology or conflicts with the complexities of reality. And some of those suck donkey balls. Like National Socialism.
It’s a quote, from a very popular movie.
And nihilism is not healthy, it sounds like you should talk to a professional, but all they’re going to tell you is to get a hobby. Check out the library, lots of free/cheap starter hobbies.
