The morality of torturing children cause they’re not from the chosen people.

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    John Yoo rides again

    Cassel: If the President deems that he’s got to torture somebody, including by crushing the testicles of the person’s child, there is no law that can stop him?

    Yoo: No treaty.

    Cassel: Also no law by Congress. That is what you wrote in the August 2002 memo.

    Yoo: I think it depends on why the President thinks he needs to do that.

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    I mentioned in my comment from the start and before making any edit that this cannot belong to the jewish religon. Same thing happened with ISIS who adopted a false supremacist murderous and evil idology of Islam. They enslaved Yazidi women and slaughtered kids and men whom they viewed as not from the chosen people.
    How the fuck was ISIS bad but Zionism is supported by Europe and the US and Western values? ISIS never represented Islam the same way Zionism does not represt Judaism. ISIS mirrors Zionism to the theeth btw. They were colonizing lands that was promised to them by god, slaughtering and raping people for their promised Khalifite who will lead their people to rule the world. They also needed a country for them to escape “the prosecution” they experienced everywhere in the world to practice their religon and exist in peace. Does ISIS have the right to exist??

    So lets not pretend these monsters dont exist regardless of what they claim their belief is; We judge them by their actions. The Episten files showed him and Donald Trump impregnating and aborting a mentally disabled kid numerous times. Also showed him mocking a girl who was asking Jesus for help because he absolutely does not believe in any god. Also showed his 1500 galons of acid tank that is connected to the swerage system beneath. There is an ongoing investigation regarding missing bodies in his NM ranch. There is hard undeniable evidence that this monsterous elite Epestien class exist and they do everything above the laws without shred of humanity.

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      As an ex-muslim. I’d like to correct you that everything that ISIS did is mentioned in Quran and is actually a valid interpretation. In fact, a lot of it is mentioned directly by hadith and verses in the quran. Hence why you will never hear any religious institution calling them “kuffar” or people who have strayed and adopted a false supremacist view. They just really can’t do that because everything ISIS did can, and is justified by the quran and hadith.

      However, that is NOT to be taken in an islamaphobic way. The majority of the muslim population have no idea about this, as was I when I was still muslim. Simply because we don’t get taught in schools about it. Islam is a cancer, it has the potential to be used to justify horrible atrocities because the quran and hadith contain so much shit like this. Just like any religion really, but it also happens to be overrun by extremists who spread their extremist views.

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        Isis was armed and paid by Israel. Religions are theaters of the class war, not ennemies in themselves

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      Isn’t there a decent amount of evidence that ISIS is in fact, the IDF. ?

      False flag operation.

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    Humanity needs to decide what level of barbarism we will collectively tolerate.

    Israel has been way over the line for a while.

    If we allow them, Team Trump, and the rest of the greed first lobby to continue, i can only hope for total and complete nuclear destruction.

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      I mean we’ve been allowing this shit to happen all over the world, and worse – it’s just not in the news because news about israel gets more clicks

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      Humanity needs to decide what level of barbarism we will collectively tolerate.

      Historically, the bar has been set extraordinarily low. But that’s largely based on the question of informed consent. Articles like this aren’t going to show up on FOX or ABC or CBS, so long as the people perpetrating the crimes are Israeli. By contrast, if an Iranian or Russian or Chinese or <insert scary country here> police force engaged in such an act, it would be held up as an excuse for carpet bombing their power plants and assassinating their university professors.

      If we allow them

      We aren’t in a position to allow or disallow without a large scale mobilization of labor. Even then, a lot of what you’re talking about begins with boring bureaucratic shit like petitions and marches. The violence doesn’t just go away because some pollster can show a broad public disgust (for - again - events the major Western media isn’t interested in covering).

      Without assess to mass media, the public remains broadly uninformed and disinterested. Without a mobilized labor movement, there is no organizational support for individual dissent.

      Even when such things do exist (Italian and Spanish citizens have been at the forefront of the BDS movement), there are countervailing forces among the plutocracy that obstruct material change.

      The belief that you can unilaterally or rapidly affect sweeping international policy changes - that you are some Great Man of History who has volunteered to be apathetic - is going to drive you insane, if you let it.

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      There needs to be a better way to enforce geneva conventions and UN resolutions for countries at the top. Otherwise they’ll only bring them up when it’s convenient for them.

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    In some ways we should be treating the state of Israel as a serial killer. Obviously we and any courts are better knowing about this. But should we be concerned that publication changes behaviour?

    In some ways “hopefully” they are brazen and psychologically disturbed enough that it doesn’t. Because this baby could’ve quite easily just disappeared, if they thought this coming out would make them look worse. I’m sure it’s happened.

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        GroundNews also rates Anadolu Ajansi as a “Mixed Factuality” news source. Will check, if I can find more sources to this one.

        No search on Ground News seems to provide anything on this article. It’s not (yet?) listed on it.

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          Ground News uses Media Fact Base Bullshit that’s, again, a guy in his basement without any political science qualification. It only survive on sponsoring youtubers.

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    According to an Israeli insider,… “The father was overcome with releif to finally be able to tell the authorities the truth. Everybody cheered

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    It’s just splendid that world gets to watch a colonial settler project akin to what European colonial powers were doing 200 years ago all because “Great” Britain promises land to a group of people 100 years ago.

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      there’s a lot wrong with this comment. Israel was created as the league of nations pressured Britain Into creating a home for the Jewish populations displaced after the wars. other counties weren’t happy to take that population and the Jews themselves wanted to return to what they saw as they’re homeland. after WW1 Britain pledged support for their right to a nation and offered to help set that up but it wasn’t until 1947 when the united nations voted for their partition plan that it was decided to decide the land up into separate Arab and Jewish states. the Jews agreed, the arabs didn’t, and when in 1948 Israel declared independence (a joke I know considering their need for American support has never wanted) they and the Arab states were immediately in opposition and have been ever since. blame Britain and white people lol you want but actually they were wonky ever trying to help a people displaced by terrible persecution and who were unwanted by the rest of the world. it seems they still are, so maybe they have a point about that persecution…