Donald Trump said Tuesday that Canada will have to pay US$61 billion to be part of his “Golden Dome” space-based missile defence plan — but would pay nothing if it becomes part of the U.S., a message he claimed to have “told Canada” himself.

The social media post came hours after King Charles III delivered the speech from the throne in Canada’s Parliament, which particularly focused on asserting Canada’s sovereignty and included plans for bolstering national defence.

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        If Canada entered collectively as a single state (pure nonsense, but hear me out), they’d get two senators and 1 representative to the house. The apportionments for US representatives would need to be raised to account for 40 million new people, which my guess wouldn’t happen, so instead California and Canada (who have almost equal populations) would just trade off allocations of representatives alternating with New York and Texas. Canada would end up with a lot of representatives in the House this way but wouldn’t be nearly as powerful as adding 20 senators if the provinces entered as individual states.

        All said, not all of these seats would go democrat, but the GOP definitely wouldn’t be able to guarantee majorities or stalemates in both houses like they have been for the past 20-30 years. Even if the Trump admin pulled this con off and annexed Canada as a US territory, the GOP would just block entry as a state since I can’t imagine this Congress passing a joint resolution to allow it. Furthermore, Congress doesn’t even have to consider adding a new state even if the population of that territory keep petitioning for it (see ongoing D.C. and Puerto Rico statehood petitions).

        Shit would get really complicated when the US has to handle the dissolution of parliament, withdrawal from the Commonwealth, and Quebec.

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          There’s also land treaties with First Nations.

          I’d like to see how his plan to be part of the common wealth goes.

          I’m guessing day one King Charles kicks him out and immediately calls for a dissolution of the entire US government. You’re all Canadians now.

          FIXT.

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          Let me simplify that for you. Canada doesn’t want it. We are unified on that. Any “annexation” would be a violent one. Is the US ready for violence at its doorstep instead of across an ocean or two? By people who look just like you guys?

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            Oh, I’m with you. I was just diving really deep into how absurd the 51st rhetoric is on our side.

            It is clear that there is no intention of treating Canada fairly and, as you rightly pointed out, annexation would be violent and justifiably so.

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    Does a dome have to be arching upwards? This golden dome I’ve been hearing about just makes me think of a toilet full of piss.

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    Days after the USA ambassador in Canada said Trump was done with the 51st State shit. I suppose Trump will rename the ambassador function to embarrassador by an executive order.

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      Exactly what I was thinking. Also, $0? It would be less than zero for the citizens. He’d also be against all the social programs like healthcare and the like and that healthcare would drastically get more expensive on top of having to pay out of pocket for the insurance.

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      This.

      • they pay us to build it
      • they pay us to run it
      • our people only collect data
      • they get a copy of that data

      … As long as they keep paying their bills.

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    You’d think he would be the one person to learn you can’t actually just unilaterally decide that some other country is going to pay for your stuff.

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    Canada: How about we stay Canadian, we don’t pay $61B and you go golden shower yourself in Moscow again.

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      He literally just said Canada has nothing that the US wants but he still won’t stfu with this 51st “state” bullshit (as if he’d EVER allow them to become a full state with the population, voting power, and political leanings of another California… it’s not even a real proposition that anyone would ever take seriously, including himself, but still won’t shut up about it)

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      Pretty sure this visit was a regularly scheduled one, seen as he hasn’t been here since his coronation.

      But hey, keep thinking everything is about the orange magat.

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        Ton of canadian was arguing that the “king” coming was sending a strong message to trump on social media. I didn’t make it about trump, it’s people defending having a useless king who did make it about the orange magat.

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          And you are amplifying that. Want to fight that narrative? Stop perpetuating it.