If only Democrats had the stones to do this.

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    NO!! Not a number! Tie it to inflation, as a proportion!! Picking a specific number is what got us in this mess in the first place

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            And if he does? Preferring a neoliberal to a fascist does not make one a neoliberal, especially if a neoliberal has a better shot at preventing a fascist from gaining office than a leftist. Bernie is a social democrat and a pragmatist, and if that’s not left enough for you than say that, but don’t get your ideologies confused.

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              Everyone has already forgotten what happened when the DNC used Bernie to try to bait and switch his voters for Hilary. We might be cooked if everyone has already forgotten this strategy doesn’t work.

              The DNC Neoliberals also funded fringe right wing campaigns to give themselves easy competition, and instead lost to them. Making them partially responsible for Trump ever gaining power, they paved the road every step of the way through fucking insane excuses that limp fuck neolibs just keep lapping up like dogs.

              I personally can’t ever vote for another Republican or Democrat again, MAYBE if an actual leftist is the democratic canidate. But IMO the only way to free ourselves is to end the Duopoly forever, there’s no baby in that bathwater.

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                without looking it up what is neoliberalism and how is it different from social democracy or, indeed, liberalism?

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                  Neoliberals are people pretending to be leftists that suck rich cock instead of representing the majority of their electorate.

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      Correct. Before people say “it should be $25/hr,” federal minimum wage is only matched by the poorest of states. State minimum wage increases would be warranted and implemented in states with a higher cost of living following the federal wage hike.

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        “But muh McDonald’s prices!”

        They’re already $10 a meal my dude, and Amazon is Amazon no matter where you live

      • Given there’s lots of states still sitting at $7.25, $17 is certainly a step in the right direction. But it should be $25/hr and people should be pushing the idea that $17 is too small, but still better than nothing. $17/hr is already the compromise and treating it like it isn’t doesn’t benefit it. But its also not helpful to be defeatist about it not being enough.

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          $17/hr is $35,360/yr. The median income in Arkansas, the state with the lowest cost of living, is currently $36,761.

          https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/arkansas

          It’s not a compromise. Federal minimum wage should be enough to live on in the poorest state. More than that would create private business deserts in poor areas, forcing the locals to exclusively patronize corporations. More of the population would need social program assistance to help pay for the increased cost of our domestic food supply.

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          Given there’s lots of states still sitting at $7.25, $17 is certainly a step in the right direction.

          Yeah, but centrists like having a permanent underclass to exploit.

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        Then we make two wages, one we call minimum, the other we call living. That way it’s easy to know if a place is offering a living wage or if it’s just unimportant work.

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          lol right now we do have two wages. The minimum wage… and the subminimum wage. Yes, that is a real thing! 2.13$ an hour if you make more than 30$ in tips a month.

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          Then we make two wages, one we call minimum, the other we call living.

          That way we can tell the difference between the morlocks and the eloi.

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    By 2030, $17 will be the equivalent of $5/hr. Can we just skip the bullshit and tie minimum wage to 2xSGA@40hr/wk? Right now that’d be about $18.70

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    They need to stop using fixed values and switch to a calculation based on GDP, cost of living, inflation, and other such factors. If you do that you don’t need to keep fighting to increase it.