The team behind “Superman” is responding to the backlash after director James Gunn said the DC tentpole is the story of “an immigrant that came from other places.”
When asked about the reaction to his comments, James Gunn explained that the movie is for “everyone” and that he doesn’t have “anything to say to anybody” spreading negativity around “Superman.”
“I’m not here to judge people,” he told Variety at Monday night’s “Superman” premiere at Hollywood’s TCL Chinese Theatre. “I think this is a movie about kindness and I think that’s something everyone can relate to.”
Just make him an illegal alien then, try to deport him, make him a Russian/Chinese asset.
(Actually at least one multiverse story comes close to that - but has Superman initially land in Russia iirc.)Yeah and he’s the villain in his own story because you can’t have a Soviet farmer teach his adoptive son worthwhile values.
No propaganda or politics in fiction though!
Lmao, yes, exactly!
Remember, propaganda is only evil if it hurts my views (and by “my” I mean whoever is in charge, not me).
But Superimmigrantman was always (especially at the even-more-super-op beginning) just a comic about the model poster boy American with superhuman USA patriotism.
(And or with that, very one-dimensional, it took like 30 years for him to get a personality bigger than those of characters from short commercials.)
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I love this. Thanks for sharing it.
I wanted to print a copy, and I went looking for the highest-res copy I could find. I couldn’t access the larger image in the dc.com article you linked, but in case anyone else is interested, I found two at 2750 x 3778:
- This copy has a visible crease from scanned original
- And this copy has the crease shooped out
America has two souls battling and it always has. It’s Paine and Franklin vs the southern founders. It’s Jefferson vs himself. One soul says we’re a nation built on the idea that all people are created equal, with fundamental rights, and that government should be more controlled than the citizens. The other soul looks at a nation founded by genocide and slavery, with early settlers being the puritans after they lost power in the UK and think that’s what they think America should be.
Each side considers the other un-American because we want different Americas
But he’s white! How can he be an immigrant!
Shame they did stick with a white actor. Imagine the chuds losing their minds over a Superman played by Pedro Pascal or Michael B. Jordan.
Wasn’t there a comic where Superman renounces his US citizenship ?
The Man of Steel’s declaration, “I’m tired of having my actions construed as instruments of U.S. policy,” follows accusations that he caused an international incident in Tehran. Superman flew to the country during a huge protest, where he stood silent for one day, to show his support for the demonstrators. The 24 hours pass with a mix of appreciation (flowers and flags) and fear (hurled Molotov cocktails). But the government of Iran sees Superman as an agent of the United States and feels his action is an act of war. “Truth, justice and the American way – it’s not enough anymore,” Superman tells the president’s national security adviser. “The world’s too small. Too connected.” He then makes the decision to go before the United Nations and renounce his American citizenship.
Party of “fuck your feelings” huh? MAGA biggest cry babies out there. Guess it makes sense.
Network anchor Kellyanne Conway said of the film, “We don’t go to the movie theater to be lectured to and to have somebody throw their ideology onto us.” Jesse Watters added, “You know what it says on his cape? MS13.”
MAGA is so fucked up it’s impossible to tell if they’re serious or not.
Then don’t fucking go and see it, Kellyanne. Problem solved.
I bet you didn’t mind being preached to for ‘God’s Not Dead’ 1-4 or whatever. Or ‘Sound of Freedom’. Or whatever Ben Shapiro’s dumb school shooting movie was called.
Fuck off with your hypocritical bullshit.
It’s only a matter of time before someone photoshops MS13 on his suit. Then Trump will sue the movie company for hiring illegals.
Apparently it’s “fuck your feelings (only mine matter because I’m special.)”
Dude is from another planet but magat get upset he is called an immigrant.
I mean… He’s literally an alien that came here illegally.
Is MAGA stupid? Don’t answer that, it was rhetorical.
Yeah…but…MURCA!
Technically he was “born” in the US in most versions going back a few decades. His pod was retconned from one they put a whole living baby into in earlier stories, to an artificial womb “birthing matrix” that combined DNA. Was even a storyline that dealt with if he was eligible to be President based on that (may have even been the reason for the retcon, can’t remember). So he’d be an “anchor baby” to use their racist term, and someone Donald wants to invalidate an amendment with an executive order for
Wow, I have literally never heard that version of the story.
Nah, that was true from 1986 through 2009, but it went back to him being born on Krypton in “Secret Origin.” The standard born-on-dying-Krypton story has persisted through New 52 and Rebirth.
Source?
https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/Kryptonian_Birthing_Matrix https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/Armageddon_2001 Though I suppose it’s possible it could have been retconned back at some point, and there could be continuities that just don’t show the relevant bits so could be either origin as canon for that continuity. So may be more accurate to say for most just it’s inconclusive
Is thst still canon? I know it was officially changed in New 52 to be baby Kal-El in the ship from Krypton again. And then Post-Crisis canon was merged with New 52 Canon with Rebirth and Doomsday Clock, but I haven’t read a comic in years now. No idea what they settled on as his new origin. Either way though, non-lawful entry or born here with non-citizen birth parents, he would be considered an illegal or stateless immigrant under the current government. There is no getting around that Republicans.
No, not since 2009.
Poor Supes has been retconned since he first appeared. For a while he could shapeshift and turn invisible.
He can’t fly, but he can leap over tall buildings in a single bound.
I watched Young Justice when I was a kid, I remember the one in the black t-shirt only being able to do that. I think he was Superman’s nephew? Idk lol
The superboy in YJ was a government created half human half kryptonian. He was grown to teenager in a vat essentially.
In some versions he’s almost literally Supes and Lex’s son as Lex was the human half of the mix.
https://youtu.be/9UJphNPwDfk?list=PLhGipfv0juZWw5lM_NyhY1n32UXVSn37Q
1940 animated version using rotoscopes. One of my favorite versions of the Man Of Steel.
Man got in a fistfight with electricity
And won!
Asmongold. Enough said. Also, most conservative men are opposed to bathing. Something something washing assholes is gay.
They are stupid, useless, and gross.
This can’t be true. Please say this isn’t true. Blech
You mean the guy who lives like a pig and has cockroaches climbing on his shirt while live streaming his newest rage fit should not be listened to?
Seriously, what is wrong with his viewers? The content is shit brought to them by someone living in his own literal shit.
what is wrong with his viewers?
They identify with an unhygenic hateful asshole.
I thought you were exaggerating so I googled it and what the fuck man.
Did you read about where the dried blood on the wall by his bed came from?
Jesus Christ, who the fuck gets bleeding gums as recurring thing.
Somebody who doesn’t take
properany care of their teeth.
People with severe gingivitis. Like if this guy wasn’t doing something with moderate effort on a regular basis I’d assume severe depression because cleaning and oral hygiene are things that can fall to the wayside while struggling with depression. But also Jesus man, have some shame.
Hey, assholes are important!
I had to block all the channels related to this guy a few years back because he is nothing but a garbage take factory.
I don’t understand why anybody watches a dude who lives in filth and go, “Ah yeah this guy has good opinions on things!”
Those people usually see him and think “He’s just like me!”
Bible: “Jesus says to love your neighbor.”
MAGA: “Why do you have to make it political?!”
Well he’s an Alien who is an American citizen more than likely.
Foundlings aren’t directly mentioned in the laws but if a child is found in the U.S. and you can’t find the parents, it is assumed to have been born here. And thereby a citizen by the 14th Amendment.
Unless someone could prove who his parents were and where they were born, until that time I don’t think they would have grounds to revoke the citizenship
There is proof of his origin, that hologram of his father that explained it to him
So you believe some people who found a baby in the middle of no where and decided to raise/adopt him picked up a hologram made of alien tech unlike anything seen on earth before and were going to bring that to the government to say we know who his parents are? Kid would go to a gov facility for infinite tests and the Kent’s would be institutionalized or disappeared because everyone would have thought they were nuts in the psych ward. No way they’d know the kid was going to fly, shoot laser beams and be impervious to weapons.
I’m saying that when he’s an adult, his origin is provable. In some of the films, Lex Luthor finds the proof
Pfft, you think the Trump administration would give him the benefit of the doubt.
When Superman came to earth Trump wasn’t born yet right? He had FDR
AFAIK, current Supes is perpetually 28ish. So, he was born/arrived under Bill Clinton’s administration. But Trump is trying to denaturalize people who have birthright citizenship without citizen parentage, so i dont think it matters.
In a few years he’ll have been born under Bush!
Fillion’s response is gold.
I think this can be read two ways and one of them is rather tone-deaf. It’s not just about the movie, that’s the whole point of the original interview.
He’s one of the good ones.
All these things haven’t suddenly become woke, YOU JUST BECAME A RACIST BIGOTED XENOPHOBIC ASSHOLE!!! AKA MAGA.
But they’re explaining only half of the plot an illegal alien is assimilating and it’s making a specific billionaire very upset he can’t continue to exploit his people
All I am gonna say is xenophobic Lex Luthor is always the best written Lex Luthor
Largely because it’s a bit valid to be concerned that the indestructible alien could decide he’s bored serving the world and just take it over.
Xenophobic Lex is just a compelling villain, a bit like doom. Someone who has a sound reason for their actions, but usually takes really questionable routes.
I like Lex Luthor as a villain a lot more than I like Superman as a hero for exactly this reason. He’s a villain, sure, but his villainy is all centered around this one highly logical and concerning idea of never giving Superman total power because they’d then never be able to take it away from him.
Dr Doom I straight up don’t even consider a villain tbh. He’s antihero at worst (though he’d be pissed to hear me say so). His subjects love him. A bit megalomaniacal, maybe, but he genuinely wants to rule the world to do what’s best for everyone.
If Fantastic wants to fight you because he thinks it’s the right thing to do, and Doom wants to fight you because he thinks you’re destroying his property, I know which one I’m putting my bet on because I know which one is going to show up to that fight more pissed off. His reasons are weird but Doom does still frequently show up to fight the bad guys, if for no other reason than “this is my fucking planet and I won’t have you breaking the place”. I love that.
Is he Xenophobic specifically, or is the Xenophobia simply an expansion on his Deophobia?
I always understood Lex to be more than just “I dislike you because you R alien” and more “You are an alien with supreme power, and humanity cannot stand against you as is, therefore I dislike you”
I think the Jeff Bezos character is based on Lex Luthor.
How dare we suggest that Superman doesn’t reflect the full Aryan image? Sorry, I misspelled MAGA
If he was Aryan he’d have the common decency of having blond hair like a real Übermensch. The dark hair makes him look like someone from the middle east!
“SuperMan is an immigrant” I thought that was an alien. In which world we do live where is worst being an immigrant than an alien.
When I was a kid, immigrants were called aliens. Illegal immigrants were illegal aliens.
Conservatives unable to grasp basic plot points of a story thats been around nearly 100 years. Color me unsurprised.
“When did Star Wars become woke?!”
they don’t get Jesus message, even though they say Jesus is the most important thing in their lives.
To the limbo ‘how low can you go’
How dumb can you get? How dumb can you get?
I only know the Ludacris version. Somehow it’s still fitting.
They were hoping to see a movie about the Ubermensch, not this woke comic book fake news!
Nah jk they don’t read.
They don’t want Superman; they want Homelander.
But they love zoolander.
Know the difference:
Hand model
Not hand model
…But why male models?
Some guys really like guys. Most guys I know love to listen to guys sing! These guys even try to dance like the guys dance! Its pretty acceptable these days. I like both the guys and the gals.
But why male models?
It could be Supergirl! How come there’s no superwoman?
or at least Snyderman.
