• Snoopy@jlai.lu
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    In France, they repressed palestinian strike, canceled meeting and media defended Israel, he told us he won’t arrest Netanyahu, despiste the CPI decision. There is so many things wrong.

    Even if he does it, i don’t trust him, he could act long before.

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    Unironically, admitting Israel, Palestine and Lebanon into the European Union might actually be the solution to this whole fucking clusterfuck.

    Edit: major major reforms should take place of course, and Israel should dismantle apartheid and pay reparations, while Lebanon should dismantle the sectarian dysfunction of their government, but as a long term horizon this region needs the wildly successful EU model of peaceful pacification more than any other region in the world.

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      The EU struggles enough with keeping Hungary and Poland in line. Now imagine taking on countries that have been at war (or at least a cold war) for three quarters of a century.

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      Unironically, admitting Israel, Palestine and Lebanon into the European Union might actually be the solution to this whole fucking clusterfuck.

      Only if the EU disarms Israel and restores the '47 border in the process, then prosecute the IDF leadership for war crimes.

      Otherwise, you might as well suggest we admit Ukraine and Russia to the EU to settle that fight as well.

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      Membership requires that candidate country has achieved stability of institutions guaranteeing democracy, the rule of law, human rights, respect for and protection of minorities, […].

      Yeah, that’s not going to happen.

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      I doubt that would ever happen anyway, but Britain and Ireland were both in the EU for a long time before they actually struck a peace deal in the Good Friday Agreement.

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        I know, the EU was also supposed to be the solution to the Cyprus occupation, and that didn’t work either.

        I’m not saying that the EU itself is the solution, but that the horizon of the EU, or at least something similar (a MEU?) could play that stabilizing role.

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          But the violence carried on until 1998. Just them both joining the EU wasn’t enough. It wasn’t genocide levels, but it took a lot of work from both sides to get the bombs to stop.

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      How can it be too late if he didn’t do it, but just planned to do it sometimes later… wait…

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      THE PRESIDENT OF THE REPUBLIC

      Paris, July 24, 2025

      Mr. President,

      By letter dated June 9, 2025, you informed France and the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia of the will of the Palestinian Authority to put an end to the war in Gaza with a view to achieving just and lasting peace in the region, while strongly reaffirming its support for the implementation of the two-state solution. You condemned the terrorist attacks of October 7, 2023, and called for the immediate release of hostages held by Hamas, advocated the disarmament of Hamas, and its withdrawal from the governance of Gaza. You highlighted the commitment of the Palestinian Authority to fully assume its responsibilities in all Palestinian territories, including Gaza, to undergo deep reforms, and to organize presidential and legislative elections in 2026 in order to strengthen its legitimacy and authority over the future Palestinian State, which you emphasized should not be militarized.

      I commend these courageous commitments and, in return, I inform you of France’s mobilization in favor of the implementation of the two-state solution, with Israel and Palestine living side by side in peace and security. This solution constitutes the only path that can respond to the legitimate aspirations of Israelis as well as Palestinians. We must now achieve it as quickly as possible.

      Civilian populations have paid an unbearable price during the terrorist attacks of October 7 by Hamas and during the war pursued by Israel in Gaza. At the same time, the prospect of a negotiated solution to the conflict in the Middle East seems to be receding. I do not accept this.

      His Excellency Mr. Mahmoud ABBAS President of the Palestinian Authority

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          Are you talking about Napaleon? I genuinely do not understand what century are you living in, because modern France never invaded Haiti and houthis are not legal body of Haiti.

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            Huh, so you just don’t know the history. Fair enough. Here’s the Wikipedia article on the heinous debt that France forced Haiti to pay - at literal gunpoint - for daring to free themselves from slavery and French Colonial rule. They pulled all sorts of scummy tricks, like forcing them to use French banks and to take out loans to pay the debt, which of course resulted in more debt. It took over a century for the debt to be paid, and was a transfer of a huge part of the wealth of the entire country directly to the French rich (at some points this constituted FORTY PERCENT of the total income of the country). It severely impacted the development of Haiti over the last two centuries, and is widely held to be directly responsible for the poverty Haiti now experiences.

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              Are you challenged? How do you think this happened? Haiti revolution and slavery is literally part of napoleonic wars that I mentioned, but you started saying I don’t know history. How do you seemingly know stuff about Haiti, yet don’t know this? Countries usually don’t see something that happened a century or two ago relevant to modern times

              Please, read the wiki link you sent me, but obviously failed to read it yourself, especially the part about who owned the debt after ±1900 (forgot the year, but Haiti’s debt was transferred to be paid to US, not France).

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    So now being French and liking the French and anything French by extension is going to be made illegal in places.

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      France was also the loudest opponent in NATO of the second Gulf War, and they also ejected all the US nuclear sites from their country in the 60s. It’s the reason why the “French are cowards” trope keeps getting pushed in American culture.

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        “French are cowards” trope

        Yeah I hate that one. France being great and the French being a bunch of legends aside, the French army is the most successful in all of history to the best of my knowledge. That one “recent” blip aside.

        You have to hand it to the Germans though… The oul blitzkrieg was a game changer. No shade on the French. Maybe a little for not reinforcing the Ardennes route but sure look, hindsight is 20/20 and all that.

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          That one “recent” blip aside.

          Even then, France held out for more days than many other WW2 countries who don’t get accused of cowardice for it.

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            Yeah in the face of it they were pragmatic. Given the circumstances, after the initial outmanoeuvre I’ve never seen anyone criticise what they did with a meaningful alternative and they ate shit to get the Brits back across the channel so they could fight another day.

            Vive la France! 🇫🇷

  • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de
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    What is even the point in recognizing the tiny piece of land that is Gaza and the mostly desert that is west jordan land as a palestinian state? In this case, i guess it’s more than obvious that Israel is an invader into the middle east and shouldn’t even be there in the first place. By cementing a two-state solution, it just gives legitimacy to Israel. I’m in fact for a one-state solution, which is only Palestine. Israel doesn’t have a right to exist after all, this much is clear, finally.